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To Try to Net Killer, Police Ask a Small Town's Men for DNA
NY Times ^
| January 10, 2005
| PAM BELLUCK
Posted on 01/10/2005 3:59:18 AM PST by Pharmboy
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Have to agree with the ACLU here, as much as it hurts. Without "probable cause," this is like a home invasion on spec.
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posted on
01/10/2005 3:59:18 AM PST
by
Pharmboy
To: Pharmboy
Aren't we supposed to excerpt NY Times articles?
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:02:17 AM PST
by
Arkie2
To: Pharmboy
"They're not supposed to keep it," Mr. Rose said. "If I did something stupid down the road and they had my sample on file, well, then it's an illegal search and seizure."
Libs sure have a strange thought process. "If I did something stupid down the road...."
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:02:56 AM PST
by
HighWheeler
("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:03:07 AM PST
by
freepatriot32
(http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
To: HighWheeler
Libs sure have a strange thought process.And how did you determine from the article that he is a lib?
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:09:57 AM PST
by
Glenn
(The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
To: Pharmboy
ACLU is right on this one.
No way would I volunteer.
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:21:19 AM PST
by
KidGlock
(W-1)
To: Arkie2
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:23:36 AM PST
by
Pharmboy
(Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
To: Pharmboy
That's a change then. Wasn't NYT one of the papers that sued FR?
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:24:44 AM PST
by
Arkie2
To: KidGlock
What's so wrong with it?
If my DNA is on file, say from birth, it'd make crimes like murder a whole lot more difficult to get away with.
And the downside is? my civil liberties?
Ms. Worthington's "civil rights" certainly have been grossly violated.
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:26:06 AM PST
by
ThirstyMan
(Why is it, all the dead vote for Democrats?)
To: Pharmboy
In Baton Rouge, La., in 2003, authorities trying to find a serial killer took swabs from 1,200 white men who drove white pickup trucks, but the dragnet did not yield a suspect; a black man was later arrested using other investigative methods...
http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/010805/new_dna001.shtml
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:26:48 AM PST
by
Ellesu
To: Arkie2
No, you are thinking of the L.A. Times.
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:28:57 AM PST
by
Sloth
(Al Franken is a racist.)
To: Ellesu
In BR they told all those who volunteered to give swabs, their sample would be destroyed once they were cleared, or given back to them.
From the above link,
authorities have kept the DNA swabs of the other men and are storing the genetic information in government databases that can be used by law-enforcement agencies investigating other crimes.
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:29:07 AM PST
by
Ellesu
To: ThirstyMan
What's so wrong with it? Whenever something was broken in my childhood home of 5 kids, and no one would own up to it, my mother would spank us all to be 'sure she got the right one'. Perhaps this is just not strict enough. Put them all on death row to be sure we 'get the right one'.
What is wrong with you people?
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:29:26 AM PST
by
Glenn
(The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
To: ThirstyMan
How about a tatto of your name on your forehead at birth so people could ID you when you committ the crime. Better yet, how about a geolocation chip under your skin so when you committ the crime you can immediately be ID'd as being at the scene. Hey, if we keep going we can make this a completely crime free society, kind of like in the book 1984.
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:35:21 AM PST
by
Casloy
To: KidGlock
Sgt. David Perry of the Truro Police Department and other law enforcement authorities here say that the program is voluntary but that they will pay close attention to those who refuse to provide DNA."We're trying to find that person who has something to hide," Sergeant Perry said. -excerpt
No way would I volunteer. -Kid
...and that's the way they like it! Can anyone say "POLICE STATE"?
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:41:44 AM PST
by
pageonetoo
(I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
To: Pharmboy
"I think it's outrageous," said Dick Seed, 44, a Truro sign painter
With a name like that, I can see why he's got a DNA obsession...
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:43:09 AM PST
by
ErnBatavia
(ErnBatavia, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham....the ultimate Menage a Quatro)
To: Pharmboy
...and the database grows! Soon, if a cigarette is thrown out the window, or a candy-bar wrapper dropped on the street, your DNA samples will be used to fine you, or incarcerate you. We all know that gum't doesn't make mistakes!
Red light cameras, speeding cameras, Surveillance cameras with feature recognition software, fingerprint databases, DNA databases, finance databases, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:46:08 AM PST
by
pageonetoo
(I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
To: ErnBatavia
Yeah, I was thinking maybe he left the "DNA".
To: Pharmboy
trying to get DNA samples"I think it's outrageous," said Dick Seed, 44
There's your man.
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:47:28 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
To: ThirstyMan
If my DNA is on file, say from birth, it'd make crimes like murder a whole lot more difficult to get away with. Feel free to mail a cotton swab of saliva to your state police laboratory for their archives. Just don't ask me to do it. And the downside is? my civil liberties?
No, mine.
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posted on
01/10/2005 4:49:24 AM PST
by
KidGlock
(W-1)
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