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Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground South of Guam
The Associated Press ^ | Jan 8, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/08/2005 3:19:47 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

HONOLULU (AP) - A nuclear submarine ran aground about 350 miles south of Guam, injuring several sailors, one of them critically, the Navy said.

There were no reports of damage to the USS San Francisco's reactor plant, which was operating normally, the Navy said.

Jon Yoshishige, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Fleet based at Pearl Harbor, said the Friday afternoon incident is under investigation and the 360-foot submarine was headed back to its home port in Guam.

Details on the sailors' injuries were not immediately available. The sub has a crew of 137, officials said.

Military and Coast Guard aircraft from Guam were en route to monitor the submarine and assist if needed, the Navy said.

Guam is a U.S. territory about 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii.

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On the Net:

U.S. Pacific Fleet: http://www.cpf.navy.mil

AP-ES-01-08-05 0343EST


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: guam; shipwreck; silentservice; ssn711; submarine; usn; usssanfrancisco
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To: Squantos
Ask him if he knew who it was that sank a sub at the dock ?

The Yardbirds at Mare Island hated it when we reminded them that they had sunk more of our submarines than the Russians had.

721 posted on 01/08/2005 10:53:22 PM PST by SmithL (Anything in the water can dive, I wanna be on something that can surface.)
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To: SmithL

Do ya remember anyone with the last name Angelo ?


722 posted on 01/08/2005 11:04:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: jriemer
"There's an off chance that "submarine runs aground" for public consumption is really "other nations sub strikes US sub" in reality. It's happened before: A Brief History Of US/Russian submarine collisions: ... "

From this post:  China expanding submarine fleet

According to US and Taiwan intelligence estimates, China has about 70 submarines (virtually all conventional), it is building more and buying more from Russia. It has one nuclear submarine, two more being built and eight Kilo-class diesels on order from Russia, to be delivered in 2005 (Russian sources) or 2007 (Chinese sources).

And from this one:  Indian Navy to lease Russian N-submarine(Akula-II)

MOSCOW: India is to lease a multi-role nuclear submarine from Russia for 10 years under a deal signed earlier this year, according to the defense industry sources.

Looks like there are a lot of Russian subs now used by other countries.  Could be that the other countries' crews are suffering from inexperience or overconfidence with their new toys.  Just a thought.

Then again, boys will be boys, and they do like to play 'Tag'.   (Sometimes we play rougher than others, heheh.)

723 posted on 01/08/2005 11:05:07 PM PST by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: Squantos

His CO.


724 posted on 01/08/2005 11:06:43 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Squantos

First name Angelo. Rode on the Robert E. Lee


725 posted on 01/08/2005 11:09:23 PM PST by SmithL (Anything in the water can dive, I wanna be on something that can surface.)
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To: SmithL; razorback-bert

Last name..... Jim was his first name.


726 posted on 01/08/2005 11:15:40 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: SmithL
Ask him if he knew who it was that sank a sub at the dock ? The Yardbirds at Mare Island hated it when we reminded them that they had sunk more of our submarines than the Russians had.

USS Guitarro (SSN-665), a Sturgeon-class submarine, was the second ship of the United States Navy to be named for the guitarro, a ray of the guitar-fish family. The contract to build her was awarded to Mare Island Naval Shipyard on 18 December 1964 and her keel was laid down on 9 December 1965. She was launched on 27 July 1968 sponsored by Mrs. John M. Taylor. She was scheduled to be commissioned in January 1970, 17 months later.

On 15 May 1969, initial construction was still underway on Guitarro. At about 1600, a civilian nuclear construction group began an instrument calibration assignment which required the filling of certain tanks, located aft of the ship's pivot point, with approximately five tons of water. Within half an hour, a different civilian construction group (nonnuclear) began an assignment to bring the ship within a half degree of trim. This entailed the adding of water to tanks forward of the ship's pivot point, to overcome a reported two degree up-bow attitude. Until shortly before 2000 (8pm), both groups continued to add water, unaware of each other's activities.

Twice during that time period, a security watch advised the nonnuclear group that Guitarro was riding so low forward that the foot-and-a-half high wakes of boats operating in the river were sloshing into an uncovered manhole in the most forward and lowest portion of the ship's deck. These warnings went unheeded. At 1945, the nonnuclear group stopped adding water to the ballast tanks and began to halt work for their meal break, leaving at 2000. At 1950, the nuclear group completed their calibrations and began to empty the tanks aft.

A half-hour later, at 2030, both the nuclear group, still aboard, and the non-nuclear group, returning from their break, noticed a sudden down angle being taken by the boat, which put the forward hatches underwater. Massive flooding was taking place through several large open hatches. From 2030 to 2045, efforts to close watertight doors and hatches were largely prevented by lines and cables running through them. At 2055, Guitarro sank.

Guitarro was refloated three days later, 18 May. Damages were estimated at between US$15.2 million and US$21.85 million. Guitarro was commissioned two and a half years late, on 9 September 1972, with Commander Gordon Lange in command.

She became a test platform and never really did regular service and partols.

SS & SSN Sailor
727 posted on 01/08/2005 11:31:25 PM PST by SS Guy
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To: Jet Jaguar


728 posted on 01/09/2005 12:24:11 AM PST by anymouse
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Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground; 1 Dies
Sailor Wounded on Nuclear Submarine That Ran Aground Dies; 23 Crew Members Treated for Injuries

In this photo released by the US Navy the attack submarine USS San Francisco (SSN 711) is escorted by two harbor tugs returns to Apra Harbor, Guam, after a five-month deployment June 4, 2004. The USS San Francisco ran aground about 350 miles south of Guam, injuring several sailors, one of them critically, the Navy said late Friday Jan. 7, 2005. (AP Photo/US Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Mark A. Leonesio)
The Associated Press

HONOLULU Jan 9, 2005 — A sailor injured aboard a nuclear submarine that ran aground about 350 miles south of Guam died Sunday, the Navy said. Twenty-three other crew members were being treated for injuries.

The USS San Francisco was headed back to its home port in Guam after sustaining severe damage on Saturday. The incident was under investigation, said Jon Yoshishige, a spokesman for the Pacific Fleet based at Pearl Harbor.

The name of the sailor who died was being withheld pending a mandatory 24-hour waiting period, the Navy said.

There were no reports of damage to the 360-foot submarine's reactor plant, which was operating normally, the Navy said. Officials said there was no information on what the submarine struck.

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The extent of the damage would not be known until the vessel arrived at Guam Monday, Yoshishige said.

Navy and Coast Guard aircraft from Guam were sent to monitor the submarine and assist if needed, the Navy said. The sub has a crew of 137, officials said.

Located west of the international date line, Guam is a U.S. territory about 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii.

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U.S. Pacific Fleet:


729 posted on 01/09/2005 3:34:16 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: judicial meanz
Chester Nimitz grounded a submarine once. He went on with his career..

That's true, it was his first sub command and he was court-martialed for running the USS Decatur aground. Nimitz.

730 posted on 01/09/2005 5:13:23 AM PST by xJones
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To: fastattacksailor
Does THAT ever bring back some memories.

NO! My memories are the Straits of Bonifacio in June being warmly welcomed by the local females topside on the yachts that decided to greet us. But you claim to be an attack boat sailor so I don't have to tell you any of this.

731 posted on 01/09/2005 5:23:47 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Jet Jaguar

prayers again to all involved


732 posted on 01/09/2005 5:24:51 AM PST by CivilWolf
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To: SlowBoat407
Just want to clarify before I respond to make sure we're talking about the same thing.

The "new navy" has worked real hard on getting rid not just of SINS but of sins and sinners as well. The DOD feminization movement has made it a career ending move to drink, get caught with women not your own wife, and most other sources of what boat sailors used to consider good clean fun (well, I am not sure about the clean part).

733 posted on 01/09/2005 5:28:17 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: El Gran Salseron; Doohickey
sonar girls

Bwahahahaha, now THAT brings back old memories.

734 posted on 01/09/2005 5:31:03 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: CivilWolf

yep.


735 posted on 01/09/2005 5:34:51 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: AndyJackson

heyyyyy...some of us here resemble that remark *L* but at 6'3 210 lbs..i never did look good in a dress *L* not even during a shellback ceremory *grin*


736 posted on 01/09/2005 5:35:44 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: SmithL
Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Shows how soft the new navy has become. First, most of us are proud of being bubbleheads. Second, if the worst a bubblehead ever gets called in his career is bubblehead, he ain't a real bubblehead.

737 posted on 01/09/2005 5:46:42 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Bottom_Gun
i never did look good in a dress *L* not even during a shellback ceremory *grin*

Aww common, I'll be you were the cuttest thing in the whole shack.

738 posted on 01/09/2005 5:56:25 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: mudblood

You raise a good point. One concern I have with our military is that, as our weapons grow fewer but hugely more expensive (a new F-22 costs, what, as much as a whole squadron of WW2 B-17's), those entrusted with them will be forced to be more conservative and take fewer chances to avoid career-killing SNAFUs like this. Which sounds good -- until a wartime emergency requires them to know how to push the envelope.


739 posted on 01/09/2005 6:04:31 AM PST by Kerfuffle
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To: WildTurkey

It would also explain why they could never be bothered to squeegee the shower when they were done: no room.


740 posted on 01/09/2005 6:04:49 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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