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Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground South of Guam
The Associated Press ^ | Jan 8, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/08/2005 3:19:47 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

HONOLULU (AP) - A nuclear submarine ran aground about 350 miles south of Guam, injuring several sailors, one of them critically, the Navy said.

There were no reports of damage to the USS San Francisco's reactor plant, which was operating normally, the Navy said.

Jon Yoshishige, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Fleet based at Pearl Harbor, said the Friday afternoon incident is under investigation and the 360-foot submarine was headed back to its home port in Guam.

Details on the sailors' injuries were not immediately available. The sub has a crew of 137, officials said.

Military and Coast Guard aircraft from Guam were en route to monitor the submarine and assist if needed, the Navy said.

Guam is a U.S. territory about 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii.

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On the Net:

U.S. Pacific Fleet: http://www.cpf.navy.mil

AP-ES-01-08-05 0343EST


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: guam; shipwreck; silentservice; ssn711; submarine; usn; usssanfrancisco
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To: dread78645
Seawater + H2SO4 = Hydrogen gas, and there is a hydrogen monitor and a CAMS suction in the battery well.
261 posted on 01/08/2005 7:22:03 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: submarinerswife

Ahhh so!


262 posted on 01/08/2005 7:22:19 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: submarinerswife

Ahhh so!


263 posted on 01/08/2005 7:22:20 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Larry Lucido

There's a few ways to do it. There was a boat coming into Little Creek that ran aground on a sandbar once. Since it happened at low tide, all they had to do was wait for the tide to come in, which floated the boat again and they got right out of there. Sometimes tugs have to pull you out. It all depends on the situation.


264 posted on 01/08/2005 7:22:34 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: HipShot

Good to see ya Buddy!

I was wondering when you would drop in.


265 posted on 01/08/2005 7:23:00 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Bottom_Gun

Done!


266 posted on 01/08/2005 7:23:32 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: submarinerswife

Either times have changed, or you're not telling all you know. As best I can remember, the wive's club knew more about what was going on than the crew did.


267 posted on 01/08/2005 7:24:01 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: dread78645

I was aboard the USS Grenadier when she ran aground, I think it was in 1964. We were "snorkeling" in some shallow water when the stern planes locked up. It turned out that there was a bucket or something wedged in the stern plane.
The sonar dome was torn up and we had to go to the yards for repair. Pretty exciting stuff, since the USS Thresher had just gone down with all hands lost.


268 posted on 01/08/2005 7:24:46 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The Navy will see no good reason for a Submarine to ground itself. They have so many instruments to tell the depth under the keel (fathometer I think), the height of the water over the bridge and sonar to tell what is ahead of them...

This Captain is done, assuming all the instruments were functioning correctly....


269 posted on 01/08/2005 7:27:29 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: Doohickey
... and there is a hydrogen monitor and a CAMS suction in the battery well.

Yep. But I don't recall if the "rig for un-grounding" card will ensure that they'll be checked to see that nothing was smashed.

270 posted on 01/08/2005 7:29:03 AM PST by dread78645 (Truth is always the right answer)
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To: Doohickey; judicial meanz
Check in with PJ-Comix who ran the Ping List Envy---How big is your Ping List? thread when you have your list assembled. Your list sounds like a great idea - just omit mudblood.
272 posted on 01/08/2005 7:29:55 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Elle Bee

but the sea floor may have just change after the earthquake and tsunami

thats what I was thinking


273 posted on 01/08/2005 7:30:21 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: deaconjim

There are few who knew....The COB on the in crew was a good friend of mine on Husband's last boat. But to new wives who don't know to wait for the facts come out, it is scary when the wives begin speculating without the facts.

There is always a pot-stirrer who wants to get it going and keep it going.

I've been around long enough to know alot of things but I am smart enough not to tell anyone about what I know....especially over the phone.


274 posted on 01/08/2005 7:30:48 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: mudblood

"But I don't need any book to recognize bs when I hear it.."


Mud, I'll give you a break - you have no military experience.

Here's some info about command - "command" means something - it's not just "you have to do what I say" it is a solemn responsibility to the soldiers and sailors over which you exercise command.

"Command" does not mean people submit their time and expenses to you for approval. "Command" is not someone makes your coffee for you. "Command" is not getting to play golf every afternoon.

In the military, Command is something every officer that is worth his salt seeks. Command, at the level of a sub captain means that there is no passing the buck. In this case, the sub commander, the captain, is responsible for everything - even that which is not in his direct control - because there is always a way to avoid situations

That is what his job is - accomplish the mission - which, although not having any direct Navy experience myself, (from Tom Clancy or otherwise), I know usually doesn't include grounding the boat and injuring your crew.

That's it. EVERY Commander knows what happens if something occurs on his watch that he could have reasonably avoided.

It is this facet of military command - appropriately distributed (but fully accountable) command authority that makes the US military the greatest in the world.

Hey, maybe the captain was asleep in his bunk. Maybe he wasn't anywhere near the bridge. It is a commanders responsibility to make sure his crew is trained in every forseeable situation. This commander knew that going in, and accepted the risk.

There are good commanders and lucky commanders. The Navy will decide which one this guy is.


275 posted on 01/08/2005 7:32:10 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: MarkL
Do attack subs (or any subs) constantly use their sonar? It seems to me that it would give away their location.

Assuming that not all bubbleheads are totally dumb, fill in the conclusion.

276 posted on 01/08/2005 7:33:35 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: judicial meanz

I successfully resisted everything but the "boomer fags" thing, even Mr. mudblood the troll.

Some things you just can't let a fast boat puke get away with.

My first reactions was the same as yours; here comes the "help wanted" sign. That's not necessarily the case, but it's a normal kneejerk reaction.


277 posted on 01/08/2005 7:34:07 AM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: fastattacksailor

Maybe you'd be able to satisfy my curiosity...what'd be the effect on a sub if it were submerged in the path of an underwater tsunami? I understand they travel at hundreds of miles per hour.


278 posted on 01/08/2005 7:35:08 AM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham....the ultimate Menage a Quatro)
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To: HipShot

LOL....

Being a product of both boomers and fast boats, I am a red headed stepchild.

Both types of boats produce great people. Thats the ultimate result.

In less than 120 years, submariners have already greatly affected history. Thats the proof.


279 posted on 01/08/2005 7:37:40 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Lazamataz
It's best if you have a couple of pieces of old carpet under the submarine, for traction.

Or maybe a couple of divers could get out and push. :)

280 posted on 01/08/2005 7:38:07 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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