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To: trussell

Thanks!

That what I'm saying. People like Michael Newdow are why Democrats can't win elections in the heartland.

We're not all a bunch of God-hating, flag-burning, baby-slaughtering, communist-loving monsters.

We're just people with a nurturant value system.

We believe in trust, opportunity, prosperity, open two-way communication, fairness, community building and honesty.

We're your neighbors, your friends, your co-workers.

Unfortunately, Michael Newdow and Jane Fonda would have you believe that we're something quite different.

America is better when we all work together.


37 posted on 01/08/2005 3:36:16 AM PST by rommy
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To: rommy

"Progressives" like yourself need to be more vocal. D**ks like Newdow get all the press. Thanks for serving, BTW.


39 posted on 01/08/2005 3:43:24 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Molon-frickin'-Labe!)
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To: rommy
The left used to be pretty consistent about the First Amendment, but that has all changed since the advent of political correctness. I daresay that now there are a lot of conservatives who are closer to being absolutists on the First Amendment than are self-styled "progressives." Many on the left have only a half-hearted support for freedom of speech.

I hate the way a lot of leftists throw around the word "offensive." On the one hand, if an idea offends people who have mainstream to traditional values, the fact that the idea is "offensive" proves it is good and must be protected. People who are offended need to grow up and accept that our society is "diverse." Being "offensive" is the greatest good imaginable, and the fact that someone found an idea offensive is proof that the idea should be protected by the First Amendment.

On the other hand, anything that runs counter to some "progressive" pet cause is automatically "offensive" and not protected by the First Amendment. The fact that a traditional idea offends someone with "progressive" values is proof that the "offensive" idea is evil and ought to be banned. People who express "offensive" ideas need to grow up and accept that in our "diverse" society there are an increasing number of ideas that should not be expressed because they might "offend" someone. Now suddenly being "offensive" is the greatest evil imaginable, and the fact that someone found an idea offensive is somehow proof that the idea should not be protected by the First Amendment.

46 posted on 01/08/2005 4:29:54 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: rommy
Michael Newdow and Jane Fonda would have you believe that we're something quite different.

I thought Jane got religion (best part, it really pissed Ted off!).

Has she fallen away?

59 posted on 01/08/2005 6:58:22 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: rommy

We can probably work with Democrats like you. Too bad your leadership has to pander to the whackos.


66 posted on 01/08/2005 8:13:44 AM PST by westmichman (Pray for global warming. (Thank G-D for the red states))
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