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To: Thatcherite
Can you cite these please. I'm intrigued.

Good grief! Have you ever heard of Archeology? Prophecy? History? I don't even know where to begin.

For example, I assume you've heard of the Biblical character of Jesus (mentioned predominantly in all versions of the Christian Bible). Would you find it surprising to know that archaeologists and historians have found plenty of "secular" documentation of the man's life consistent with the accounts in the Bible?

So then, the Bible predicts there was a famous religious leader who traveled around to certain cities. Thus "predicting" secular records of his ministry existed. Archaeologists looked for such, and found them! Amazing! Shazam! But does this make the life of Jesus science?!? Not in my humble opinion.

109 posted on 01/10/2005 1:55:50 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear
Most successful religious prophecies when examined carefully tend to fall into 3 camps:

Prophesying things that have already happened.

Prophesying things that are obviously likely to happen.

Prophesying things so vague that it is easy to claim success.

Outside these 3 camps you'll get the odd startling success through blind luck, and no-one counts the failed prophecies.

Scientific predictions made by theories like ToE are a completely different kind of thing. They are definite. They are non-obvious (unless you accept the theory). If they fail people alter or reject the theory. Stuff that has already been observed only counts if further different observations can be made of the same prediction.

129 posted on 01/10/2005 11:47:30 PM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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