WA Gov. Race: Dino District Democrats [Leg. Certifies Gregoire 1/11 No Matter What]

Sound Politics ^ | 6 December 2005 | Stefan Sharkansky

[Publius]

Sources in the legislature tell me that:

1. Contrary to an earlier rumor, it does not appear that the Democrats will attempt to certify the election on Monday.

2. The D's have the votes to certify on Tuesday, and they will move forward with that no matter how many people are protesting outside.

3. Nevertheless, it is important to lobby your legislators to try to persuade them to hold off on certification -- especially if you have a Democrat Senator and/or Representative and your district voted for Dino Rossi.

4. The advice for making your point to your elected officials: "Phone calls and e-mails are effective, and the more effective if they are courteous".

The following is an expanded list of the Dino District Democrats in the legislature. If you any of these people represent you, it's essential that you contact them. [If you're not sure of your district, go here and scroll down to "District Finder" ] Explain that there are too many irregularities in this contest to trust the outcome and that it would be only undermine public confidence in our electoral process if the legislature were to certify the result. Ask them to support a revote so we can restore confidence in the system and elect a governor who has a legitimate mandate, whomever that turns out to be.

District	Location	Rossi's Percentage	Democratic Legislators
1st	portions of northeast King County and south Snohomish County, including areas of Bothell, Woodinville, Mountlake Terrace, and Brier.	50.3%	Sen. Rosemary McAuliffe Rep. Al O'Brien Rep-elect. Mark Ericks
16th	parts of Benton and Franklin counties, and all of Columbia and Walla Walla counties.	63.6%	Rep. Bill Grant
17th	a portion of Clark County.	54.6%	Rep. Deb Wallace
23rd	Kitsap County, including Bainbridge Island, Silverdale, Poulsbo, Kingston, and parts of Bremerton.	50.9%	Sen.-elect Phil Rockefeller Rep.-elect Sherry Appleton
25th	Puyallup, Milton, and portions of Fife and Edgewood, and the communities of Midland and Summit/South Hill.	53.9%	Sen. Jim Kastama Rep. Dawn Morrell
26th	parts of Pierce and Kitsap Counties	52.4%	Rep. Patricia Lantz Rep.-elect Derek Kilmer
28th	Fircrest, University Place, Lakewood, Steilacoom, Tillicum, and West Tacoma; Anderson, Ketron, and McNeil Islands.	51.3%	Rep. Tami Green
30th	Federal Way, Milton, Algona and Pacific	51.2%	Sen. Tracey Eide Rep. Mark Miloscia
35th	Mason and portions of Grays Harbor, Kitsap, and Thurston Counties.	50.4%	Sen. Tim Sheldon Rep. Kathy Haigh Rep. William Eickmeyer
41st	Bellevue, Mercer Island, Newcastle, west Issaquah and northeast Renton	50.7%	Sen.-elect Brian Weinstein Rep. Judy Clibborn
42nd	the western half of Whatcom County.	51.1%	Rep. Kelly Linville
44th	a portion of southwest Snohomish County	54.1%	Rep. Hans Dunshee Rep. John Lovick
45th	parts of Kirkland and Woodinville; Redmond, Duvall, Carnation and the Upper Snoqualmie Valley	54.4%	Rep.-elect Larry Springer
47th	part of southeast King County from the Renton Highlands to Kent to Black Diamond	54.2%	Rep. Geoff Simpson Rep.-elect Pat Sullivan
48th	parts of Bellevue, Kirkland, Redmond, and all of Medina, Clyde Hill, Yarrow Point and Hunts Point	51.3%	Rep. Ross Hunter

[the percentages are of the two-party vote. Source: My analysis of King County returns; Rossi campaign for districts outside King County ]

That would be 20 Democratic Representatives and 6 Senators in Dino Districts. Only a few of them need to vote with their constituents instead of with their party bosses (and union paymasters) to preserve our democracy. Again, be impeccably courteous and appeal to their highest ideals of respecting the will of the people and insisting on clean elections to measure the will of the people. At the same time, the subtext should be that betraying one's constituents and certifying a fraudulent election should merit devastating consequences.

I know that many of these Democrats are worthy public servants. It would be a shame if any of the good ones sacrificed their careers in order to prop up this fraudulent circus of an election "victory".

[Publius]

What is alarming to me is that the legislature intends to ignore the people entirely. Gov.-elect Gregoire's first appointment was to reappoint the head of the Washington National Guard. I'm beginning to smell a genuine coup in the air.

[Publius]

Ping.

[rface]

a part of me would just let the Dems keep the Gov. Mansion hoping that this illegitimate victory will smother any power that this Dem might try to project.....but the other part of me thinks that to give them the Gov. Titile is asking for trouble.

I still think that the Dems have won the political battle for the Gov. race - even if they won it with imagined votes.......but I also think that the public knows that this race was won by cheating. I say save the candidate and use him for a Senate race --- ala like Daschle's seat

[Publius]

Maria Cantwell is unbeatable, an absolute shoo-in. Rossi doesn't want a senate seat or a career in politics. He doesn't need it. He wants to clean up the corruption in Washington State.

[proudpapa]

Here is my slightly edited letter:

TO: Representative Kelli Linville

FROM: Proudpapa


SUBJECT: Don't certify a poor election

MESSAGE: Dear Kelli, Soon you will have the opportunity to prove, once again, how thoughtful, fair, and reasonable you are in representing us in Olympia.

The truth is nobody really knows who won the race for Governor. Therefore I ask that you would support a revote. Let we the electorate decide this race. Anything less would be unfair to either Christine Gregoire or Dino Rossi.

The job of Governor is difficult enough without someone having to deal with constant questions of legitamcy.


To let you know this was my opinion even before the final hand count was even started. The people of Washington are patient, we are willing to wait a little longer to make sure that who ever wins, actually won.

Sincerely,

Proudpapa

[Publius]

I know one thing that truly frightens the legislators, and the Democrats accidently spilled the beans on it yesterday. From the KOMO-TV website:

Democrats on Thursday said they believe a revote would violate the state constitution, which requires that the governor be elected at the same time as legislators.

The Democrats just stepped in it. If there is a revote for governor, there could also be a revote in all legislative contests. If public opinion continues to boil over about this, a revote would not only produce Gov. Rossi but a Republican legislature too. If I were a Democratic legislator, I would have to balance my fear of running again in 30 to 60 days versus running in 2 years with a pissed-off electorate remembering my vote.

[anniegetyourgun]

rf...Publius is right...Rossi can't beat Cantwell in WA. For all the reasons he states, and the fact that she will be funded by out-of-state lib/dems at the request of Hillary. Even if he could come close, the Dems would steal the election as they have this one. It's just not realistic for him to concede to run against Cantwell.

[MplsSteve]

What seems odd to me is that Rossi won many of these districts (albeit some by small margins) and there seem to be a disproportionate number of Dem legislators.

What gives?

Is it a case of ticket-splitting by voters...or did the GOP run poor candidates for office?

Anyone?

[lonevoice]

Rossi doesn't want a senate seat or a career in politics. He doesn't need it. He wants to clean up the corruption in Washington State.

Since this ends up needing to be posted on every thread about the stolen election, maybe it should just be added as a disclaimer to all the threads. :-)

Especially since it's one of the most positive qualities about Rossi. He genuinely wants to stay in Washington State and take a broom to it.

In other news, I just heard on the radio that Comrade Gregoirovich is holding a press conference today to announce cabinet appointments. They are shameless.

[chimera]

I say save the candidate and use him for a Senate race --- ala like Daschle's seat

"Saving" Rossi for a Senate race is a fool's errand. First, he has said he isn't interested in running for Senate (I think he believes it is a consolation prize, and if so, he's right). Second, he probably can't beat Cant-do-well anyway. That 'Rat is just too entrenched, the libs love Cant-do-well, and the 'Rats are united behind her. This latter point wasn't true with Gregoire, which gave the Republicans a fair shot at winning, which they did, but it's an opportunity that doesn't come along very often. Third, Rossi won the governorship on the up and up, Gregoire didn't. Why should he lie down for the fraud? How many times is it going to take before we finally say, enough is enough?

There is no parallel between this race and the Thune-Daschle race in SD. This has come up so many times on these threads it time to put it to bed once and for all. First, the political dynamics of SD and WA simply aren't comparable. SD is a midwestern state that leans moderate to conservative in terms of demographics. WA is west coast liberal to a dominant extent. This was Rossi's shot. It isn't likely he'll have another chance. Second, John Thune's goal was to be in the Senate. He lost that in a fraud to Johnson in '02, but got a rematch against Daschle this time. IOW, he was going for the same prize. Rossi ran for Governor, because he believes that is the best position to be in to effect real change. He is right. A junior Senator from a state without much political clout in DC can't really do much to help the state where it needs help the most. Being buried in DC for the next 6 years, dealing with far-removed national issues, is too little, too late, even if he could win that contest.

[Publius]

Ticket splitting. Gregoire is not popular even in her own party. Dino hewed to the middle and tried very hard not to scare moderate Democrats and independents. It worked, otherwise Gregoire would have won in a landslide.

[Logical me]

This stinks so bad that I will venture a bet that you will find quite a few Democrats that will leave the party in the State of Washington. The next election will be a Republican landslide. Look what happened to the Presidential election after the 2000 Democrat stuff in Florida.

[oceanview]

Rossi may just have to stick it out and run against her in 4 years. Rudy Giuliani did it, his loss to David Dinkins had some questionable voting practices (not as blatant as in WA) - but he bided his time, built up his political base, and came back and beat Dinkins.

[connectthedots]

BTTT

[Oorang]

Petition for a revote:

http://revotewa.com/

[Publius]

I've already done my duty there.

[Oorang]

Thanks. Just putting the link out there for all to see and hopefully sign. I should have put to "all" rather than just your name - sorry.

[Theodore R.]

It was "funny" to see Demos like B. Boxer decrying possible "fraud" in the presidential race in OH but not saying a word about her liberal neighbors to the north in WA State possibly stealing a governor's election from the rightful winner. I bet B. Boxer is convinced beyond "reasonable dobut" that her party nominee won in WASH State!

[chimera]

It's funny how the 'Rats think that a 120,000 vote margin is doubtful, but a 129 vote "win" is decisive and needs no further scrutiny. Bunch of lousy hypocrites.

[proudpapa]

One of the reasons Thune won was because South Dakotans overwhelmingly voted for Bush over Kerry.

Bush won't be of much use to a republican candidate in washington state in '06.