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To: Thatcherite

While connecting the dots, they seem to move from time to time.


Various 'parts' of ToE, when looked at closely, appear as thought they MIGHT work, then stepping back, appear not to.

Vast amounts of WORDS stating how something 'could have, might have, seems to have, would have', adjusted to environmental pressures to get to point A from point B when NO experiments with large animals have shown ANY of this concept to be true.

With the amount of time between transitions being claimed, then if evo STILL works at the same rate, MANY creatures today should be half-way to something else.

Trotting out the 'lookee here' charts showing that animal B shares dna with an 'older' animal A somehow PROVES that the 'newer' came from the 'older' makes as much sense as using a Periodic Table to show linkages as well.


504 posted on 01/10/2005 11:10:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
While connecting the dots, they seem to move from time to time. Various 'parts' of ToE, when looked at closely, appear as thought they MIGHT work, then stepping back, appear not to.

Interesting, lets hear about them then.

Vast amounts of WORDS stating how something 'could have, might have, seems to have, would have', adjusted to environmental pressures to get to point A from point B when NO experiments with large animals have shown ANY of this concept to be true.

Since large animals have long periods to sexual maturity requiring such evidence is to set an impossibly high bar to acceptance and therefore nothing could ever persuade you if you require this evidence. We haven't seen any electrons either. Do you believe in those?

With the amount of time between transitions being claimed, then if evo STILL works at the same rate, MANY creatures today should be half-way to something else.

Indeed, how do you know that they aren't? How would you recognise one? All geographically isolated species are on the way to becoming something else all the time. Numerous species have partially formed functions (legs/wings/eyes etc)

Trotting out the 'lookee here' charts showing that animal B shares dna with an 'older' animal A somehow PROVES that the 'newer' came from the 'older' makes as much sense as using a Periodic Table to show linkages as well.

Uh, that is not how we analyse the DNA to test ToE. We do it by looking at the DNA of current species, and it shows remarkable conformity with what we would expect from the phylogenetic tree, including close relatives sharing errors (like man and certain closely related apes being unable to synthesis vitamin C through a deletrious mutation of a common ancestor) and sharing long sequences of junk DNA. These conformities are predictions of ToE which would have falsified ToE if DNA had turned out to be different.

525 posted on 01/10/2005 12:02:01 PM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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