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To: DoughtyOne
As for the police, if a person whipped out a DOJ ID, I'd probably take their word for it.

Zieg Heil! Mine Fueror!

Scuze me for bursting your bubble, but this is America, where local police work for Local Governments, and even a LOCAL prosecutor can not order an arrest without a warrant.

If the police didn't SEE a crime WHY did they make an arrest?

DOJ attorneys carry no authority in local matters.

153 posted on 01/07/2005 11:42:21 AM PST by konaice
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To: konaice

It's my understanding that an officer must witness a misdemeanor to site. It the offense is a felony, the officer can take a report from a witness and arrest the suspect. One of our resident police officers can clarify this.

Here's an incident that we could compare this to. A man walks into a SevenEleven and bradishes a gun, demanding money. Witnesses see the event. They give an account of the incident, a description and a license plate number. An officer a few blocks away sees the perp in the get-away car driving down the street, effects a stop and makes an arrest.

A person doesn't have to be a Department of Justice attorney, or a local prosecutor to effect an arrest. A private citizen can make an arrest if he feels there are grounds. He does expose himself to charges if he abuses this concept.

An attorney for the Department of Justice, is considered to be an officer of the court. Their testimony should be above reproach.

If a person filing a report lies, they are subject to the laws applicable for such an offense. Clearly in this case, a false report was issued. If an officer of the court were found guilty of having done this, it might affect their licensure. It might also merit them serious jail time. Filing a false report regarding a civil rights violation, is a serious offense.

To answer your quetions and points raised.

Anyone can make an arrest without a warrant for justifiable cause.

The police made an arrest based on the report of a witness to what the witness claimed was a crime. Evidently there was a judgement call by the officers that the witnesses story seemed reasonable enough to have been taken serious.

Every citizen can give a report of what they observed. DOJ attornies do not have authority in local matters. But they do have as much right as anyone else to bear wtiness. And I think you're kidding yourself if you think a police officer wouldn't take their position as indication of their veracity.


160 posted on 01/07/2005 1:28:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: konaice
If the police didn't SEE a crime WHY did they make an arrest?

Good question, lets have a civil suit against the city and find out WHY. It is very apparent that the JUDGE did not see a crime being committed.

DOJ attorneys carry no authority in local matters.

May be true, however, one whispering into the ear of a sympathetic cop could provide the necessary push to make the cop think he saw something that really didn't happen.

178 posted on 01/07/2005 4:53:04 PM PST by Godzilla (Chaos, panic, and disorder .... my work here is done.)
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