More Hollywood Snubs of Gibson's 'Passion'

NewsMax.com ^ | Jan 6, 2005

[gina girl]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/6/153719.shtml

[Borges]

You can make a great viewing list of directors who never won a competitive Oscar. Hawks, Lubitsch, Sternberg, Stroheim, Hitchcock, Ray, Welles, Kubrick.

[marty60]

With the depth of material available to make great movies. I personally find subject matters that promote the suffering and abuse of young children dispicable. While you watch the Hollywood crowd clapping and cheering Bacon as they show a clip of his movie, tell your friends that it may not be a good idea for them to do PSA's about protecting or educating children. The hypocricy may be to much for us red staters to take.

I am not angry at you, I just don't agree with your assesment that anything is art or drama. It is sad that Hwood only wants to tear down not uplift people.

[CaptainK]

You had me until I got to Kubrick

[Borges]

It's not clear to me that this film promotes the activity. Unless you think merely depicting it does this. A drama about horrible events can be uplifting the way that great tragic art is. Just like a piece of pandering uplifting fluff can be depressing.

[prairiebreeze]

Good for your sister. And I think you're right, the movie is to good to be cheapened by this Hollywood crowd or their so-called award.

[RobbyS]

"The Last Temptation of Christ" was not a blockbuster, either. To have recognized schlock like "The Ten Commandments" but now to ignore Gibson's film is telling.

[Borges]

I don't follow your post. Until 'I' got to Kubrick you mean? I take it you don't feel he was ever deserving. See 'Paths of Glory' man!

[Borges]

Aaw come on the Ten Commandments is so much fun! To make a film that's almost 4 hours long and not boring for a moment is an achievement. And Demille was just as sincere in his intentions with the film as Gibson was. He was actively trying to make a film for the ages.

[RobbyS]

Such films reflect the nihilism that seems to be the dominant attitude in Hollywood.

[marty60]

nihilism....I was drawing a blank...thanks.

[RobbyS]

"The Prince of Egypt" tells the story better. And as a biblical epic, I prefer "Samson and Delilah." Hedy was much too old for the role, but Victor Mature was surprisingly touching in his blindness.

[mlc9852]

I agree. This movie was not made for Hollywood, it was made in spite of Hollywood. The effect Mel Gibson's movie had on people was his reward.

[Borges]

I'm waiting for S&D on DVD. The Prince of Egypt may have been more accurate to the text but TTC is a one-of-a-kind movie that continues to be shown every year on network TV and draw big ratings. And this in a time when free tv is so predicated on youth culture.

P.S. It lost the Best Picture Oscar to 'Around the World in 80 days' a geniune piece of schlock. Probably because Demille had won a few years earlier for 'The Greatest Show on Earth'

[VOA]

bump

[joebuck]

"Instead, Variety gave acting kudos to Gael Garcia Bernal for his role as Che Guevara in "The Motorcycle Diaries," Kevin Bacon for his role as a pedophile in "The Woodsman," and Liev Schrieber for his role as a psychotic conservative politician in "The Manchurian Candidate."

I didn't see the other two, but nobody in "The Manchurian Candidate" gave a oscar worthy perfomance. I was disappointed in this movie as it wasn't in the same league as the original. All of the plot changes cheapend the movie and Meryl Streep (sp?) paled in comparison to the incredible performance Angela Lansbury gave in the original. All in all, it was a remake that never should have been remade.

[sevry]

These newsgroups are really thin skinned.

You mean it's an unreasonable complaint, but you didn't wish to state it so reasonably? as it were. You have a problem with people expressing outrage at the media elites for failing to recognize one of the best produced and most influential motion pictures of the last however many years, in Gibson's The Passion of Christ? Just as a film, it's a cut above many of the other nominees. Clearly something else is at work, here. And the obvious suspicion is that there is a Catholophobic bias among these same media elites. They are BLACKLISTING this film, denying it any opportunity for recognition. They are shunning the film because of its content, not that it was bloody, but that it was a film reasonably faithful to the Passion story, and Jesus Christ.

It is something about which one OUGHT to be outraged. It's religious discrimination in its worst form, and imposed in conspiratorial fashion by not one, or two, but various individuals and supposedly professional organizations. Wake up. Take off the blinders. Exit the matrix.

The tragedy is that some of the biggest fans of these organizations, from the Oscars on down, are found even here on FR. They contribute to this system, to this blacklisting, by their own enthusiasm for the sham of awards. What is called for, instead, is that 'freepers' shun the Oscars, and the Golden Globes, and that others do, as well. They won't 'get the message'. These BLACKLISTERS will bankrupt their own industry before they confess their own bigotry or do anything positive to remove it; just like liberal newspapers would rather shut their doors than give a conservative columnist even a single inch of print to tell the other side of the story. But even if the media elite will refuse to learn, it's they who should be shunned. And too many on FR will not understand that.

[CaptainK]

I couldn't make it through that one. I liked "Spartacus" but I've read that he abandoned the film half way through and Douglas took over, which may explain why I liked it. In the end all is tainted by "Eyes Wide Shut", a film mightily concerned with female pubic hair grooming, a pathetic film from the mind of a dirty old man. I think he is the most overrated director, ever.

[Borges]

It's been brought up here by someone that if Gibson were to take his proposal for his film to the Vatican it would have been rejected since his view does not match the one currently held by the Catholic church. Sometimes it isn't a wide conspiracy but merely people with different taste.

[semaj]

Personally this movie is too good for an Oscar.

Amen, and praise God. Blessings upon your sister and all of yours.

[Borges]

Paths of Glory is less then 90 minutes long! As for EWS, every great artist does something substandard. His best films...Dr. Strangelove...are awesome.