Posted on 01/05/2005 10:04:54 PM PST by RWR8189
A C-SPAN look-in on President Bushs challenge on tax reform featured two bright and experienced young scholars, libertarian in outlook. Mark Henrie, from the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, and Doug Bandow, appearing under the auspices of the Cato Institute, acknowledged that Mr. Bushs reforms would not be shaped by fundamentalist models. Thoughtful reformers in the recent past have focused on alternative approaches to tax reform radical in character. The first would eliminate the progressive feature of the income tax Rockefeller and his chauffeur would both pay 15 percent of their income. The second goes further, eliminating not only the progressive feature of the income tax, but the income tax itself, substituting a sales tax. Congressman Dick Armey wrote a book advocating a reform that drastic, and Milton Friedman many years ago made recommendations that deep.
It aint going to happen, was the consensus on C-SPAN, so one lowers ones sights. What is it that could entice the Bush administration and those Congressmen who seek a substantial change in the laws?
In a recent conversation with Professor Friedman, he stressed the point that substantial reform cannot be expected for one simple reason: Congressmen are in Washington to craft tax laws that enhance the interests of their own constituents.
I wrote in a book 30 years ago that tax reforms seek to improve on previous tax reforms by arching their provisions, like jungle leaves writhing for the sunlight, towards such rays of justice and equity as are discernible at any given moment of relative composure in American politics, when the pandemonium freezes, as for a photographer, for just long enough to permit one set of claimants to overshadow another. Thus a tax reform is born.
Never mind the verbal frosting, the analysis is undeniable. A tax reform is a new code enacted after massive wrestling and eye-gouging and threats and excoriations, presented as a civilized enhancement of social policy. It is an assertion of justice, justice understood as a blend of considerations: the necessities of the state; the toleration of the body politic; the relationships of power among the affected interests; and rough justice. All of the above decocted from the minds and hearts of 535 legislators.
But the call for intelligibility is more than merely a cry for understanding. The incomprehensibility of modern IRS language challenges the dignity of self-rule. For purposes of paragraph 3, an organization described in paragraph 2 shall be deemed to include an organization described in section 501 c, sub-paragraphs 4, 5, or 6; which would be described in paragraph 2 if it were an organization described in section 501c 3. That paragraph is taken from the 1969 Tax Reform Law, and sheer physical cowardice discourages investigation into how subsequent tax reform laws absorbed that paragraph. What we do know is that the current law consumes over 54,000 pages.
Complexity of tax law language informs us of attempted refinements of fiscal thought. Yet these refinements, piled one on another, can end in vitiating the purpose of the law and even in contradicting it. A desire to shelter the poor cant get around the regressive impact of state sales taxes on goods the poor need to have, whether telephone service necessary to employment, or cigarettes for which there is psychic dependency. You cant frame sales tax schedules on proportionality: because rich and poor have common necessities.
The political clamor during the election season had to do with the relief given to the rich by the tax law of June 2001, which reduced the top tax rate from 39.6 percent to 35 percent. This meant that the highest bracket taxpayers pay $60 to $80 billion less in taxes than they would otherwise pay. These are the same 1 percent of taxpayers who come up with 34 percent of all the income taxes that flow in to the federal register. There will be a first-class row over the question whether the richest Americans should be permitted to be that rich.
That much we can count upon. But also, we can hope that even if radical legislation has to be postponed yet again, the criteria will affect the legislative mood, and illuminate the way to sounder tax laws.
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John Linder in the House & Saxby Chambliss Senate, offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright, and provide a IRS free replacement in the form of a retail sales tax:
H.R.25, S.1493
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.Refer for additional information: http://www.fairtax.org, http://www.salestax.org & http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer/ftax.html
You cant frame sales tax schedules on proportionality: because rich and poor have common necessities.
Sure you can, you just create a mechanism to assure that any tax paid on the common necessity by rich or poor is compensated to a cap as the Fair Tax Act does it. Provide the equivalant of a fixed person exemption to the tax.
Under the Fair Tax Act (HR25) All legal residents will receive a monthly demogrant called the Family Consumption Allowence(FCA) equivalent to the FairTax paid on essential goods and services, also known as the poverty level expenditures. The FCA is paid in advance, in equal installments each month. The size of the monthly FCA will be determined by the government's Poverty Level for a particular family size, multiplied by the tax rate, and paid to all households regardless of income or actual expenditure. The HHS poverty llevel is a well-accepted, long-used poverty-level calculation that includes food, clothing, shelter, transportation, medical care, etc. See chart in Figure 1 below.
| Figure 1: 2004 FCA calculation | |||||||
| Family size |
HHS annual poverty level |
FairTax annual consumption allowance (single person) |
Annual rebate (single person) |
Monthly rebate (single person) |
FairTax annual consumption allowance |
Annual rebate (married couple) |
Monthly rebate (married couple) |
|
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 |
$9,310 $12,490 $15,670 $18,850 $22,030 $25,210 $28,390 $31,570 |
$9,310 $12,490 $15,670 $18,850 $22,030 $25,210 $28,390 $31,570 |
$2,141 $2,873 $3,604 $4,336 $5,067 $5,798 $6,530 $7,261 |
$178 $239 $300 $361 $422 $483 $544 $605 |
N/A $18,620 $21,800 $24,980 $28,160 $31,340 $34,520 $37,700 |
N/A $4,283 $5,014 $5,745 $6,477 $7,208 $7,940 $8,671 |
N/A $357 $418 $479 $540 $601 $662 $723 |
[ The monthly FCA for each adult is .23 * (HSS poverty level for a single person)/12 to assure no marriage penalty due to the manner in which the poverty level is dependant on family size. The monthly FCA for each child is .23 * (the incremental increase of HSS poverty level for a family with one child over no child) ] A. Geezer
A family of four, for example, could spend $24,980 per year free of tax because they will have received over the course of the year a demogrant totaling $5,745. $5,745 is the amount of sales tax paid on $24,980 in expenditures. That family spending double the "poverty level" or $49,960per year will effectively pay tax on only half of their spending and, therefore, have an effective tax rate of 11 ½ percent or half the FairTax rate.
The beauty of the FairTax is that you can control how much you pay in taxes. If you happen to save, invest or spend a portion on used [previously taxed] items, you can get your effective tax rate below 9%.
To illustrate examine the tax burden that a family of four will have at various annual expenditure levels as compared to that same family under the current tax law, (NRST Expenditure = income; 2004 individual income tax on wages plus FICA/MC taxes, standard deduction, personal exemptions,child credits, and EITC):
Not only does every family receive a FCA based on family size, not income, but they will also receive 100% of their paycheck
And that family of four can spend more than $24,980 per year free of tax if they are paying off a mortgage on an existing home.
Hmmm, I wasn't aware that there is any guarantee under the constitution that everyone be an owner of property, only the opertunity to try.
Minor detail not worth mentioning, eh?
Why mention something that is not meant to be covered?
The NRST compensates for the tax on the bare essentials of a healthy diet upon which the poveryline is based and that is all it is meant to do.
The poverty thresholds were originally developed in 1963 and 1964 by Mollie Orshansky, an economist working for the Social Security Administration (SSA). As indicated below, she actually developed two sets of poverty thresholds--one derived from the Agriculture Department's economy food plan and one derived from the Agriculture Department's somewhat less stringent low-cost food plan. She described an initial version of these thresholds--for families with children only--in a July 1963 article in the Social Security Bulletin.(7) She published an analysis using a refined and extended version of the two sets of thresholds (including thresholds for unrelated individuals and families without children, as well as for families with children) in a January 1965 Social Security Bulletin article.(8)
Sorry doesn't cover tax on my house payments for me, nor your rent for you, on that we are on our own.
If you have something to say, simply say it. Is there really a need to be sarcastic and nasty to Ancient Geezer? He's too old to be treated in that fashion.
He's too old to be treated in that fashion.
Who yah call'n old buddy!!! ;o/
How would the national sales tax be implemented on the internet?
Currently, I can avoid NY state sales tax by buying lots of stuff online from out of state vendors.
Currently, I can avoid NY state sales tax by buying lots of stuff online from out of state vendors.
Only because you are not declaring such purchases to NY for their use tax.
Furthermore, you do happen to be financing the federal income/payroll taxes of the retailers you do business with no matter where they are at, not to mention what ever the local governments may levy on those businesses as well.
However, NRST = National Retail Sales Tax.
Means same rate in every state, guess what every business is required to collect and remit it to their own state tax authority who passes it on to the feds after taking a cut. For that the business is also compensated as well as the fact they no longer will be paying income or payroll taxes nor NRST on anything the purchase for re-sale or conduct of their business.
Smile my freind, you pay today, you pay under the NRST. The difference is you get a receipt that lets you know just what the federal government rips you off for instead of leaving the business half hidden from your view by hiding it behind a veil of price and inflation.
I guess one benefit of it is that it taxes drug dealers for their purchases of Lexuses and stuff.
And I don't declare the amount because I don't keep receipts.
And I've never gotten any real benefits from the state government of NY. They already tax my income at 9%
With what amounts to a taxhaven in teh US from the perspective of international busineses we can expect a substantive increase in foreign investment in this country as well as a return of manufacturing to the US reversing decades of business flight from the US to other nations.
An interesting point highlighted by
Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee,
Rep. Bill Archer (R-TX)
August 12, 1996
- "A recent survey was done, in Europe and Japan, of the major corporations and I was astounded at the results. They were asked, 'If the US abolished its income tax and went to a sales tax, would that have any impact on your decisions?' Eighty percent of the corporations said they would build their factories in the United States of America. Twenty percent said they would move their international headquarters to the United States of America."
When the NRST was initially being look at as viable alternative to the current federal tax system.
And I don't declare the amount because I don't keep receipts.
Just means you evading it my friend. You look into NY state law you are required to declare it just as you do for that 9% income tax.
And I've never gotten any real benefits from the state government of NY.
What's that got to do with it.
In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
-Voltaire (1764)
Time to change that philosophy of government and how large it has become me thinks, but that change hasn't occurred yet.
That's what the rumor is. LOL
Just blog rumors!!! I started out at an advanced age and am counting down ;O)
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