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Jobs Americans Won’t Do
nationalreview.com ^ | 1/7/04 | By Mark Krikorian

Posted on 01/05/2005 9:50:39 PM PST by paltz

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To: Age of Reason

Good points. Thanks.


101 posted on 01/06/2005 11:08:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: paltz; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1315402/posts?page=12

NO SUCH THING AS "TEMPORARY" AMNESTY
Michelle Malkin ^ | Jan. 06, 2005 | Michelle Malkin


102 posted on 01/06/2005 11:29:56 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: PokerGod

NO SUCH THING AS "TEMPORARY" AMNESTY
Michelle Malkin ^ | Jan. 06, 2005 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 01/06/2005 10:55:00 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage

According to this article in the Miami Herald, the Bush Administration has decided to renew the temporary work and residence permits of 248,282 "undocumented" (illegal) immigrants from El Salvador under the so-called Temporary Protected Status (TPS) program. The decision will be announced later today.

A Bush Administration official informed the Herald that the reason for renewing the permits was because El Salvador was still rebuilding after earthquakes that struck the country in January 2001, four years ago.

Ostensibly, the TPS program is supposed to allow people from countries experiencing a natural disaster or civil war to come to the U.S. temporarily. Most of the Salvadorans granted TPS status, however, were already living in the U.S. illegally before the earthquake struck. In effect, the TPS designation is amnesty by another name. ----snip----

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1315402/posts?page=12


103 posted on 01/06/2005 11:41:07 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: mercy

"Houses will not be build. Yards will not be upkept. Street maintenance will cease. Chickens will not be slaughtered. Overgrown brushy land will not be cleared. Autobody and fender work will not be done. Garbage will not be collected. Restaurants will lose half their cooks and have no busboys.

That's just some of the stuff I can think of. Of course I live in the West."

Wow, ther must be some real lazy people out west then....LOL...here in the East...Those jobs you mentioned are not "above" most US citizens.

"If you vacumed up all the illegals our economy simply would not work."


LOL...again...
what DO you folks out west do with all your free time? Drive around looking to hire more illegals?

Cry me a river.



104 posted on 01/06/2005 11:45:22 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

Last night I heard a black gentlemen call a radio show. He pointed out that when a neighborhood is taken over by immigrants, especially hispanic, that they get management jobs or buy for instance fast food places. When they do, no one but illegals gets hired. His daughter is trying to get enough money for college and can not get a job.

The arguement that it keeps prices low is BS. I pay the same for a Big mac where all the employees are American citizen as I do for one ran by illegals.


105 posted on 01/06/2005 11:50:00 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: ddantas

"There's a simple way to get Americans to do the "Jobs Americans Won't Do." Grant citizenship to those doing the job currently. Problem solved."


Wow.

Where to begin....

Ok, as soon as those citizens are granted citizenship...then they supposedly go "on the books" correct?

Now the scumbag employers who origionally hired illegals have to actually play "fair" and cough up taxes / ss / FICA etc.

Guess what numbskull, the scumbag employers will just turn around, fire the newfound "LEGAL" workers and hire more illegals.


"Problem solved"?

Maybe in your cartoon life it is....but here in the real world, your overly simplistic view doesn't wash.


106 posted on 01/06/2005 11:50:59 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: StoneColdTaxHater

Better yet, make every employer found employing illegals pay the bill for the education of illegal's children, medical care, and all of the other handouts paid for by the taxpayer. Maybe if they have to put up the real cost of illegal labor that currently falls on the taxpayer they will have second thoughts.


107 posted on 01/06/2005 11:51:27 AM PST by RJS1950 (The rats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: skeeter

The employer gets by more cheaply because the taxpayer is footing the bill for all of the freebees given to these scumbags at taxpayer expense. Make the employer pay the cost of the services given to illegals that is currently funded by the taxpayer and see if it is any cheaper.


108 posted on 01/06/2005 11:54:26 AM PST by RJS1950 (The rats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Petruchio

"BINGO! I was in the printing industry for a lot of years. It used to be a good paying skilled trades job. Now that the illegals took it over, I can't even find a pressman job. My brother has been in construction for over 30 years. He is in the same boat I am in. The illegals took over.

Skilled Trades are not jobs that Americans do not want!"

You can add:
homebuilding / carpentry
Heating / HVAC
Plumbing
Auto Body repair
Automotive Repair to your list of once hi paying blue collar jobs now flooded with illegals, thus driving down prices.

To the dumb-asses who say "what's wrong with driving down prices"? Well the cost savings are not passed on to the consumer...they go into the pockets of scumbag tax-cheat employers.....which in turn put additional tax liabilities on LEGIT business owners.


109 posted on 01/06/2005 11:55:52 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: RJS1950
Of course, the feds looking the other way illegal immigration is no more than a welfare program for employers. But the Free Market dogmatics don't want to talk about that.

Nor do they want the laws of labor supply and demand going both ways.

110 posted on 01/06/2005 12:01:50 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: primeval patriot

Only ones that can not be exported like home building. I would also advise they learn at least three trades while they study management and that they be taught to save 25% of their income so that around thirty or so they can start their own small company. The smarter ones should continue their advancement and garner other companies to themselves and learn investment.

Or ... go into real estate. Accounting is profitable but anybody in business should study accounting. Generally though the trades are a dead end. They can be a good place for the young to learn about life but the attitude should always be upwards and onwards. Never get stuck in one place. Hedge your investments. It's like investing. Never put ones eggs all in one basket.


111 posted on 01/06/2005 12:50:30 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough)
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To: garandgal

Yeah? So what? What are you going to do about it? Bring horses back and start building buggy whips?

Get over it. Deal with it. The stupid will be poor.

Tough!


112 posted on 01/06/2005 12:53:22 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough)
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To: Blurblogger

Sorry but you're just totally full of shit. Try running a company that wants to expand. Try running any business. The labour is just not there. It ... is .... not .... there. I know. Been there done that. American kids can't even read let alone make change and show up to work on time. Mexican labour is the foundation of this country and you people who whine about it are living in a fantasy.


113 posted on 01/06/2005 1:00:09 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough)
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To: Sam the Sham
""If Americans don't want these jobs, pay more until they do."

You're free to start a business and do that. You can advertise that your prices are higher because your employees won't work unless they are paid very high wages. That marketing strategy would work for you wouldn't it?

114 posted on 01/06/2005 1:00:29 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
I tell you what. If you own a tobacco field it's almost impossible to get anyone but Hispanics to work it. I don't care what you offer to pay they won't work period. The people that used to are happy with sitting on their porch stoned on Oxycontin. But I'm not worried. The government is forcing tobacco overseas and it will be over soon. The land will be worthless and the Hispanics will be without migrant jobs but Hell the worthless people on the dole will still be happy sitting on their porches stoned on drugs.
116 posted on 01/06/2005 1:10:20 PM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: bayourod

What nonsense you always talk !

It is called supply and demand. If I cannot find the supply I want at the price I am offering I increase my "demand" until I get the supply I need. You will always get the "supply" you want if you are willing to pay the "demand". It is how a free market works. And that works for labor, too. I won't find a supply of Oracle DBA's with 10 years of experience if my demand is that they accept $35,000 a year. If my demand is $100,000, then I will be more successful in getting supply.

Your goal is to destroy the American standard of living to create a supply glut.


117 posted on 01/06/2005 1:15:53 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: AggieCPA
It is a myth of "jobs Americans won't do". A total lie. You pay them enough, and like the law of supply and demand for you capitalists, people will eat cockroaches like on "Fear Factor".

Don't get wrong, we need to do away with hancuffing business through regulation as well.

118 posted on 01/06/2005 1:17:37 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: mercy

Are you sane ?


119 posted on 01/06/2005 1:17:57 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham
Leave him alone. He's his own argument's worst enemy.

May his 'employees' steal his tools & make for the border in his Chevy S10.

But not before infecting him with TB.

120 posted on 01/06/2005 1:22:59 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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