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Journalist puts accent on language:"Do You Speak American?"
www.rep-am.com ^ | 01/05/05 | Luaine Lee

Posted on 01/05/2005 2:58:23 PM PST by Ellesu

He may have enjoyed a career in journalism for 40 years but Robert MacNeil, who is hosting the upcoming PBS special, "Do You Speak American?" originally wanted to be an actor.

The man who co-hosted "The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour," wrote several books, earned impressive journalism awards and headed several TV specials, says he was struck by a revelation about his acting ability. After dropping out of college to pursue an acting career in New York, he came up against the hard reality of little success in that life.

Having grown up in Nova Scotia, he returned to college in Canada and worked his way through by doing small radio shows and working for the Canadian Broadcasting Company until he graduated and went off to Britain to become a playwright.

"That's what I wanted to be. The plays didn't sell, and my prospective father-in-law didn't approve of a son-in-law with no prospects. So I became a journalist. I worked for five years for Reuters."

While MacNeil underplays it, he eventually signed on as a news correspondent for NBC out of London and worked on some of the most interesting news stories of the day -- the civil war in Algeria, the construction of the Berlin Wall, the Cuban Missile Crisis.

His stints with newsman Jim Lehrer began in 1975 and continued for 20 years when finally, MacNeil says, he longed to "do other things."

One of those "other things" is "Do You Speak American?" a three-part series that airs 8 to 11 p.m. tonight (check local listings). In this program, MacNeil indulges his passion for all kinds of English from the reeeeeeallly cool patois of the Valley Girl to Spanglish, Ebonics and Maine's stoic Eastern twang.

"My first memoir about my childhood is called 'Wordstruck,' a title which Jim Lehrer suggested. And it's about growing up with words and language and books and noticing very early that different people within my own family spoke differently. My mother said 'gar-AJ' and her father, who grew up on the south shore of Nova Scotia, said 'GAR-aj.'

"I began noticing very early that people said things differently. There was no television in those days; we listened to the radio a lot.

"And Canadian radio then had a lot of different accents on it. The news we listened to during the Second World War was the news from the BBC, ... and they had a program from the West Indies every week with West Indian music. I loved all the West Indian dialects," he says.

"When I moved to Britain as a young man, ... I loved all the different British accents. So I became something of a collector of funny accents and things like that. Not that I can reproduce them very well.

"But if you were a North American living in Britain, you weren't placeable in class terms by the way you spoke, as British people are, which gives you a wonderful kind of free entry into all levels of British society. ... I could interview people from any walk of life in any regional dialect and be accepted by them."

"Do You Speak American?" is, in a way, a follow-up to "The Story of English," which he did for PBS a few years ago.

While he was preparing that (which involved all the English-speaking world) he longed to tell more about American dialects, where they came from and why they survive.

MacNeil, 73, has been married three times and has two children each from his first two marriages. "I would rather I had got it right the first time," he smiles, "but I've got it right now and we're about to celebrate our 20th anniversary," he says.

"And my oldest child just had her 47th birthday and when your children begin getting that old, you think 'What was I doing at 47?' I was teamed with Jim Lehrer on 'The MacNeil/Lehrer Report.' "

Now he wants to return to writing novels, an endeavor that was interrupted by a nonfiction work and the TV show. "Writing is hard," he shakes his head.


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1 posted on 01/05/2005 2:58:25 PM PST by Ellesu
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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/features/2979330

1. Robert MacNeil was on Imus today, speaking about his new book on vernacular American English as it is spoken today. Far from becoming completely homogenized, he says, some dialects are becoming more pronounced than ever. Among the developments he cited:


-- More than half of Americans now say "y'all". (If you're a Texan, you might not have known it was less than 100 percent.)

-- The speech of black Americans is in many places becoming more distinct from "standard" English, not less.

-- "Californian -- the use of surfer- and Valley Girl-speak, the rising inflection at the end of declarative sentences -- has become distinct, and is emulated by young people in many places. Dude.


2 posted on 01/05/2005 3:03:05 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu
First, what percentage of those that don't use "y'all" use "yous" instead? Of course the real question is how long it will take "y'all" to become the second person singular pronoun like "you" did (it was second person plural -- "thou" was second person singular). Why does this happen? Because we pluralize for politeness and distance (e.g. the royal "we", "they" used as a third person sinular pronoun when the sex is unknown, etc.).

Second, the rising inflection at the end of a declarative sentance makes people sound like they aren't certain of anything they are saying. Rising inflection suggests a question, not a declaration (and not just in English). Using the rising inflection in a declaration makes it sound like you are asking for approval for or are uncertain of everything you are saying.

3 posted on 01/05/2005 3:13:42 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Ellesu
First, what percentage of those that don't use "y'all" use "yous" instead? Of course the real question is how long it will take "y'all" to become the second person singular pronoun like "you" did (it was second person plural -- "thou" was second person singular). Why does this happen? Because we pluralize for politeness and distance (e.g. the royal "we", "they" used as a third person sinular pronoun when the sex is unknown, etc.).

Second, the rising inflection at the end of a declarative sentance makes people sound like they aren't certain of anything they are saying. Rising inflection suggests a question, not a declaration (and not just in English). Using the rising inflection in a declaration makes it sound like you are asking for approval for or are uncertain of everything you are saying.

4 posted on 01/05/2005 3:14:10 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Ellesu
Regarding his abortive acting career, my opinion is most MSM journalists would be failures if they tried anything else.
5 posted on 01/05/2005 3:24:59 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Question_Assumptions

Not to Canadians. To us, rather, it's an invitation to join in conversation or to continue in a conversation already enjoined.

It's a pleasant, welcoming, and well-understood idiomatic quirk for us Canucks. It's so much better than ending every sentence on that mind-numbing, dull-as-a-thud down note that most people use (especially vexing when you are delivering lines in a play, or reading aloud from a book).


6 posted on 01/05/2005 3:31:08 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Ellesu; NativeNewYorker; Do not dub me shapka broham; rmlew; cyborg
I'm still pissed about the fact that the "Noo Yawk" accent is dying out. I blame 1. all the transplants from California and New England that have taken over Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn, 2. the adoption of generic "ghetto English" by much of the growing Latino population and 3. the decline of the middle and working class in NYC in general.

Remember: "drawer" is pronounced "draw," "idea" is pronounced "idear," "forest" is pronounced "FAR-est" and "Orange" is pronounced "ARE-ange!"

7 posted on 01/05/2005 3:35:04 PM PST by Clemenza (President: Liger Breeders of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: Question_Assumptions; firebrand; OldFriend

My Newarkie father still says "yous," despite the fact that he had a successful career in the auto industry.


8 posted on 01/05/2005 3:36:12 PM PST by Clemenza (President: Liger Breeders of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: Question_Assumptions

In early modern English (aka Shakespeare's time), "you" was considered either formal second person singular or both formal and informal second person plural.

"Thou" has always been a term of familiarity, denoting one person.

"Ye" was a more common familiar second person plural than "you." "Ye all" was a redundancy that became popularized by the Scots and Irish in the 17th and 18th centuries, who carried it over with them to America (particularly the south).


9 posted on 01/05/2005 3:36:58 PM PST by rightwinggoth
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To: Ellesu

Q: What's the plural of "y'all"?
A: All y'all


10 posted on 01/05/2005 3:42:57 PM PST by boojumsnark (Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Question_Assumptions; martin_fierro; xsmommy
First, what percentage of those that don't use "y'all" use "yous" instead?

In my neck of the woods?

Zero.

11 posted on 01/05/2005 3:46:01 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Second, the rising inflection at the end of a declarative sentance makes people sound like they aren't certain of anything they are saying.

I hate that.

I mean: I hate that? Or something?

12 posted on 01/05/2005 3:50:59 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: ColoCdn
It's so much better than ending every sentence on that mind-numbing, dull-as-a-thud down note that most people use

Really (thud).

I can't stand it. I keep wanting to ask them: "Are you asking me or telling me?"

I like simple declarative sentences that end on a down note. It lets me know the person isn't BS'in me (thunk).

13 posted on 01/05/2005 3:54:01 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: Question_Assumptions

In Chicago, the correct phrase is 'you guys'. No accent or weird stressing on the phrase, unless you're from the south side perhaps.


14 posted on 01/05/2005 3:56:42 PM PST by technochick99
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To: Cogadh na Sith; rightwinggoth; Clemenza
That special, hosted by Robert MacNeil is probably one of the best documentaries ever aired on public broadcasting.

Even though I've only viewed snippets from the series-taken from a few, select episodes-it was one of the most interesting experiences I've ever had while watching the "boob tube."

15 posted on 01/05/2005 3:59:28 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (The New York Times: "All the news that's fit to stint.")
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Really (high sing songy note)?

I've never thought about it like that, eh? (sliding scale high note)

From your tag, it appears that you're Celtic. (Marginally enthusiastic thud) Scottish, Irish, Welsh? (each with a varying degree of high note)


16 posted on 01/05/2005 4:01:38 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: boojumsnark

So would the directions to separate groups be something like this:

All y'all go over here.
All y'other y'all go over there!?!?


17 posted on 01/05/2005 4:04:43 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: ColoCdn
LOL! Yeah--part Scottish. I play the bagpipe. I know a bunch of really good Canadian bagpipers. Some of the top players in the world are Canadian right now.

The overwhelming impression they all left me with is that they are very reserved and very nice.

Their accents still crack me up.

18 posted on 01/05/2005 4:05:45 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: ColoCdn
No--more like: "Ya'll go over there." "The rest of y'all, go over there."

You hear that kind of thing in the army a lot.

Like: "Y'all keep your feets moving!"

19 posted on 01/05/2005 4:08:06 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

When you play "Scotland the Brave" do the New Mexico mothers tell their children to come inside?

I love the pipes. My mum was born in Stornoway, on the Isle of Lewis on Harris, Outer Hebrides. MacKenzie, with MacDonald her mum's maiden name.

My cousin was a world class junior piper. Went to the Edinburgh tattoo, things like that. It's a wonderful instrument, no matter what the naysayers may say.


20 posted on 01/05/2005 4:10:20 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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