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1 posted on 01/05/2005 2:01:42 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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Republicans should take the Democrats up on investigating the election. The Democrats would soon stop complaining about it, after the hearings determine it was almost always the Democrats committing fraud, intimidation, voter suppression, etc.


30 posted on 01/05/2005 2:23:11 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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I hate these effin people!


31 posted on 01/05/2005 2:23:55 PM PST by Endeavor
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Gee...do you think after this we'll all make up and confirm the President's judicial nominies?

If the Pubbies don't do something about this I'm changing my registration to Independent or Libertarian. I'll probably still support the party, but I'll feel better not directly being associated to it.

32 posted on 01/05/2005 2:24:45 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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Rep. John Conyers: patriot or something else?

New York
BrookesNews.Com
Tuesday 18 Feb. 2003

On January 18 Rep. John Conyers Jr., Michigan Democrat, told a placard-waving anti-war crowd: "The greatest patriots of this country are here today...The president said it'd be a cold day in Washington before this country turns against this war, but it is a cold day in Washington and here we are."

Apart from Conyers nasty insinuation people who disagree with his leftwing views about war against the genocidal Saddam are not patriotic, what can we deduce from his presence? Well, for one, Rep. does not like America and prefers the company of totalitarians to that of genuine democrats. And how do I know this? Because, as he well knows, the demonstration was organized by ANSWER which in turn takes its instructions from the WWP, a Stalinist organisation that also fronts for North Korea and Saddam Hussein. Knowing this Conyers still collaborated with them in an attempt try to subvert the Bush Administration.

It is quite interesting to learn precisely what Conyers means by a patriot. In 1979 he addressed the first national conference of the USPC (United States Peace Council) along with Romesh Chandra, a KGB agent, who also headed the WPC (World Peace Council). The USPC was a subsidiary of the WPC which in turn received 90 percent of its funding from the KGB. The organisation was established by the IDCC (International Department of the Central Committee) and the bloodstained Boris Ponomarev was its chief. All of this was an open secret that Conyers also shared. But it did not bother him.

In case anyone is naïve enough to have any doubts about Ponomarev's intentions, which means the Politburo's plans, he issued instructions in 1974 calling on Russia's allies (agents of influence and active KGB agents) within Western political parties to "neutralize" anti-communist leaders, including those in America.

There was nothing here for Conyers to object to since he never saw a communist dictatorship he never liked. In fact, Conyers was so taken with the Soviet direction that the USPC and WPC always took that he told them: "It's people like you who should be members of Congress" and "from you I can see the future of America." There you have it. Conyers idea of a democratic and progressive America was to fill Congress with KGB stooges. (Ironically, the KGB and the IDCC always held the likes of Conyers in the greatest contempt). So if well-meaning members of the January 18 demonstration thought he was playing them a compliment they really ought to think again. Unfortunately, there were still plenty in the crowd who think revolutionary justice followed by a lead injection to the back of the neck is preferable to the rule of law.

In all the years that passed Conyers became an even more ardent supporter of the WPC, an organisation that was part of a wider plan to help bring down the United States government. I can only conclude that it was this Soviet objective that attracted Conyers to the WPCs activities.

36 posted on 01/05/2005 2:26:56 PM PST by John Lenin
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Meanwhile Kerry is out of the country and sent this in a mass e-mail today.

Dear XXXX

No American citizen should wake up the morning after the election and worry their vote wasn't counted. No citizen should be denied at the polls if they are eligible to vote. And, as the greatest, wealthiest nation on earth, our citizens should never be forced to vote on old, unaccountable and non transparent voting machines from companies controlled by partisan activists.

Tomorrow, members of Congress will meet to certify the results of the 2004 presidential election. I will not be taking part in a formal protest of the Ohio Electors.

Despite widespread reports of irregularities, questionable practices by some election officials and instances of lawful voters being denied the right to vote, our legal teams on the ground have found no evidence that would change the outcome of the election.

But, that does not mean we should abandon our commitment to addressing those problems that happened in Ohio. We must act today to make sure they never happen again.

I urge you to join me in using this occasion to highlight our demand that Congress commit itself this year to reforming the electoral system. A Presidential election is a national federal election but we have different standards in different states for casting and counting votes. We need a national federal standard to solve the problems that occurred in the 2004 election. I will propose legislation to help achieve this.

Florida 2000 was a wake up call. But the Republicans who control Congress ignored it. Will they now ignore what happened in 2004?

There are nearly 3,000,000 of you receiving this email. We accomplished so much together during the campaign. Now let's use our power to make sure that at least one good thing comes from the voting rights problems of the 2004 election. If we want to force real action on election reform, we've got to demand that congressional leaders hold full hearings. Make sure they hear from you and help hold them accountable.

Speaker Dennis Hastert: 1-202-225-0600
Leader Bill Frist: 1-202-224-3135

And please report that you've made your call right here:
http://www.johnkerry.com/signup/electoral_reform.php

I want every vote counted because Americans have to know that the votes they stood in line for, fought for, and strived so hard to cast in an election, are counted. We must make sure there are no questions or doubts in future elections. It's critical to our democracy that we investigate and act to prevent voting irregularities and voter intimidation across the country. We can't stand still as Congressional leaders seek to sweep well-founded voter concerns under the rug.

Please join with me in calling Speaker Hastert and Leader Frist and telling them that you want action on election reform now.

A recent report from Representative John Conyers (D-Michigan) reveals very troubling questions that have not yet been answered by Ohio election officials. I commend the Democratic National Committee for its announcement this week that the DNC will be investing resources and reaching out to non-partisan academics in a long term study of Ohio voting irregularities. I am only sorry that we haven't seen the same from Ohio Secretary of State Blackwell and GOP officials.

Congress must play a positive, proactive role on this issue. That's why I will soon introduce legislation to reform our election system, ensuring transparency and accountability in our voting system and that all Americans have an opportunity to vote and have their vote counted.

Please remember to let us know that you made your call when you're done. We're hoping to ensure House and Senate leaders' offices hear our demand for action on election reform in meaningful way. Please take a moment to let us know you have made your call here: http://www.johnkerry.com/signup/electoral_reform.php

Thank you,

John Kerry

P.S. Thanks to all those who participated in our USO "phone home" campaign last week. The totals are coming in from the USO, and they are thrilled with your generosity and support for our brave men and women in uniform. We will send you totals as we get them.


39 posted on 01/05/2005 2:29:03 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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Unhuh. We should rush to embrace Ohio where Dubya won by 118,000 plus votes and ignore states where he lost by just a few thousand. Plus ignore the fraud in Washington state where there were more votes than voters and the democRAT won by a hundred votes or so.

Typical -- I can live with an election that was lost legally but absolutely am furious with whinning and moaning by the Rats about one that was won IN SPITE of their blatent attempts at fraud.

41 posted on 01/05/2005 2:31:21 PM PST by CedarDave (Re. Tsunami: Dubya's actions speak louder than Slick Willie's words.)
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The 102-page report titled "Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio?" lists such problems as unusually long lines, a shortage of voting machines in Democratic-leaning areas, confusion over provisional ballot rules and computer problems.

Where's the Report What Went Wrong in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and New Hampshire?

46 posted on 01/05/2005 2:37:36 PM PST by Darth Reagan
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"We have found numerous, serious election irregularities..."

But have you found the turkeys, Mister Conyers? >>>

http://www.freep.com/news/locway/turkey5e_20050105.htm


48 posted on 01/05/2005 2:38:21 PM PST by WestTexasWend
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Good old John Conyers. He knows better, but anything to keep the rabble roused. He knows his constituents are ignorant fools, and he has a lifetime job as long as he keeps them thinking he is taking care of their business. What a shameful, disengenuous ba$tard.

The Republicans in the majority should bring a censure motion, and strip him of all committee membership. They won't; that would take some backbone and huevos.


51 posted on 01/05/2005 2:43:39 PM PST by thelastvirgil (Idiot-proof ANYTHING, and someone will build a better idiot.)
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Losers!

Break out the demonRat play book they sent to their braindead masses before the election and you will find this garbage all spelled out on how to cry like a baby and claim cheater, cheater, cheater. Everyone knows the only massive voter fraud is from "enlightened" democrats.

52 posted on 01/05/2005 2:46:45 PM PST by UseYourHead (Beware of the Rinos - McCain, Hagel, Lugar, and Specter)
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With Bush's margin being over 118,457 votes - it should be clear to all but the deluded he won Ohio by MORE than a razor-thin margin. DUH.


54 posted on 01/05/2005 2:51:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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There is no accountability for the false allegations, the hysteria, the innuendo and the outright disruption the Demoncrats are causing. It will not affect the outcome of the election and it serves, only make our system look more foolish, than any found in the third world. Maybe the Ohio government and the GAO ought to bill these jerks,

It occurs to me that the Dims are doing this for the same reason a dog licks it's butt...Because they can

(P.S. my aplogogies to the dog's butt for associating it with such scum)

56 posted on 01/05/2005 2:56:25 PM PST by pfflier
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2 weeks from now and this will be moot.


58 posted on 01/05/2005 3:02:43 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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This jerk is as pinko, socialist and anti-American as one could be.He's laughable!!!


61 posted on 01/05/2005 3:08:54 PM PST by KenmcG414
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Oh boy, this is great!

If I were the Republicans I would run with this. The majority should make a big deal about needing to get to the bottom of the allegations, because we need to be sure about the integrity of our elections, blah, blah, blah, but unfortunately will delay the final electoral Tally. We may have to even delay the inauguration while these serious charges by the DEMOCRATS are looked into. . . .

The public will go nuts.

Then I would hold hearings and make the Dems out for the Sore Losermen and -women they all are.

If ever there was a set-up just begging to get booted by Karl Rove, this is it.


62 posted on 01/05/2005 3:15:10 PM PST by kaehurowing
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Isn't this the guy that started the "Bring Back the Draft" scam?


63 posted on 01/05/2005 3:18:11 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: West Coast Conservative; My2Cents; ken5050; ohioWfan
The Left was out in force today. Challenging the Ohio results and the nomination of Alberto Gonzales. These two photos are of the Ohio cretins:

Rev. Bill Moss, from Columbus, Ohio speaks to the media about his lawsuit against President Bush on the presidential election results from the state of Ohio, Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2005, in Washington. Moss, along with 50 other people from Ohio have come to Washington to constitutionally challenge the election results of Ohio. (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)

Harvey Wasserman, senior editor of freepress.org, speaks to the media about the lawsuit against President Bush on the presidential election results from the state of Ohio. Wasserman, along with 50 other people from Ohio have come to Washington to constitutionally challenge the election results of Ohio. (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)


75 posted on 01/05/2005 3:49:26 PM PST by Wolfstar (Where are you, Miss Beazley?)
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76 posted on 01/05/2005 4:19:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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This is actually good news. If the liberals/Democrats use this crying point for another 4 years saying that President George W. Bush wasn't legally elected again then President Bush will just be eligible to run for his first presidential term in 2008 and then run for re-election in 2012. By this time, Hillary is too old to run for president! Conservatism wins!


77 posted on 01/05/2005 5:18:14 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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Conyers is still alive? Who'd have thought?


80 posted on 01/05/2005 8:10:19 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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