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Big Sister is Watching You (Whittaker Chambers on Ayn Rand)
NRO | 28 December, 1957 | Whittaker Chambers

Posted on 01/05/2005 11:22:24 AM PST by annyokie

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1 posted on 01/05/2005 11:22:27 AM PST by annyokie
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"Atlas Shrugged" was made especially haunting when put in perspective of the Clinton administration and its star characters (there is even a person in the book that says things much like Robert Reich with a similar position).

The National Review has helped encourage conservatism for years. Let's keep their work alive.


2 posted on 01/05/2005 11:29:56 AM PST by ScottM1968
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To: annyokie
Out of a lifetime of reading, I can recall no other book in which a tone of overriding arrogance was so implacably sustained.

If Chambers had lived until now, he could have found several more to rival it.

Not to mention the miasmatic monologues of the MSM, which are much worse than in his day (and they were bad enough then!)

3 posted on 01/05/2005 11:35:11 AM PST by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: annyokie
This is the article that caused a huge split between Rand and the Conservative movement (Buckley et al). Speaking of gas chambers, and comparing her to Nazis shows someone who hasn't read the book, because she explicitly talks about the non-initiation of force.

Chambers, a former Communist, used that old canard of the Reds; anything we don't like must be Fascist.
4 posted on 01/05/2005 11:36:03 AM PST by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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...The embarrassing similarities between Hitler's National Socialism and Stalin's brand of Communism...

The blind pig snuffles up an acorn.
Similar because they are the same.

Ayn's description is perfectly apt.
Whether Communists, Fascists, Progressives or whatever, they are all socialist looters, and their useful idiots, moochers.


5 posted on 01/05/2005 11:39:16 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: annyokie
I was just about to post this article, but I see that you beat me to it.

I first read Atlas Shrugged in 1968 at about the age of 17. This is probably the most common age of someone's becoming a dedicated and committed Randian. But the Rand-Branden split occurred at about this time, so my enthusiasm was somewhat muted.

At any rate, through Rand I become interested in philosophy, politics and economics, so on the whole I would regard her influence as having been beneficial.

6 posted on 01/05/2005 11:39:35 AM PST by Nicholas Conradin (If you are not disquieted by "One nation under God," try "One nation under Allah.")
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I recently read a book on the Great Depression and the New Deal. The setting of Atlas Shrugged reads like it came out of the pages of the early part of the New Deal. It had the same vile little bureaucrats trying to control their sections of a sinking ship, oxymoronic names for government offices, the same friends and friends of friends of the President being put in charge of things they had no knowledge of and a general direction of poisoning anything which could have cured the problem. Atlas Shrugged wasn't set in the future from the 1950s. Its setting was the early 1930s.


7 posted on 01/05/2005 11:40:21 AM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: Nicholas Conradin
At any rate, through Rand I become interested in philosophy, politics and economics, so on the whole I would regard her influence as having been beneficial.

I agree, especially in the context of Rand challenging the liberal orthodoxy that was forming at the time and continues to suffocate so much learning and innovation in this country.

However, like so many puritanical philosophical movements, it got taken over by those who wished to create a new religion, filled by those who worshiped the reasoning of Ayn Rand to the point that they became unable to reason on their own.

8 posted on 01/05/2005 11:44:05 AM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: aynrandfreak
Whittaker Chambers was instrumental in sending Alger Hiss to prison. To the best of my knowledge about Miss Rand, she seduced her charge, Nathaniel and was no better than Clinton in being tyrannical with her flock.
9 posted on 01/05/2005 11:49:30 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: Nicholas Conradin

I read The Fountainhead while I was in hospital recovering from a tragic miscarriage. I found it to be inane and over-the-top. I never made it through Atlas Shrugged.


10 posted on 01/05/2005 11:51:05 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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By the time I read "Atlas Shrugged", I was already a conservative and thus, found the book to be dull and repetitive (since I already agreed with many of Rand's premises).

I disagreed with her blind assertion that taxation isn't necessary. Given the times we live in (and her too), to think that a nation's military can survive without tax dollars is foolhardy at best. I for one am glad that a large portion of my tax dollars goes toward creation and maintenance of the world's greatest military force.


11 posted on 01/05/2005 11:53:13 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: annyokie

Agreed. Whittaker was a hero. I never warmed up to Ayn; struck me as cold; and that little cult she had going - kinky!


12 posted on 01/05/2005 11:53:53 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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Sometimes one gets the impression that Chambers changed his alliance but not his beliefs.
13 posted on 01/05/2005 11:54:05 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: annyokie

"To the best of my knowledge about Miss Rand, she seduced her charge, Nathaniel and was no better than Clinton in being tyrannical with her flock."


She also got her husband to leave his then-wife-and-family for her. Not much of a role model.


14 posted on 01/05/2005 11:54:40 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Have you read Sam Tannenhaus' biography of Chambers? It is fascinating. Rand was a piker compared to Chambers.


15 posted on 01/05/2005 11:55:40 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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Commie like Chambers would have loved We The Living.
16 posted on 01/05/2005 11:56:41 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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Agreed. Awfully murky. I never could get behind her ideas.


17 posted on 01/05/2005 11:57:06 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: annyokie

ping


18 posted on 01/05/2005 11:58:05 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: 68 grunt

Reformed commie. Read Sam Tannenhaus' biography and get back to me.


19 posted on 01/05/2005 11:58:42 AM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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Getting back to you now, don't care.


20 posted on 01/05/2005 11:59:26 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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