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To: DoughtyOne
I found this on another site:

***The initial position of the SDA church was that they were "compelled to decline all participation in acts of war and bloodshed". However, they accomodated to society by creating noncombatant roles whereby they could fulfill their military duties. In the ensuing years, situations arose where this precedent could not be followed, especially with foreign governments. The church then determined that the bearing of arms should be "a matter of individual conscience," backing away from their initial official church position. They have instead encouraged obedience to civil authorities and focused on offering spiritual support to members in service. ***

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/sevn.html

38 posted on 01/05/2005 8:54:45 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

Thanks for your post.


40 posted on 01/05/2005 11:10:54 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

'The church then determined that the bearing of arms should be "a matter of individual conscience," backing away from their initial official church position. ****They have instead encouraged obedience to civil authorities and focused on offering spiritual support to members in service. *** '
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Jam 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Jam 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. *** For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Jam 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

Jam 1:8 **** A double minded man [is] unstable in all his ways. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jam/Jam001.html#8


Luk 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Luk/16/13.html

Luk 11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Luk/11/23.html

Mat 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Jhn 14:15 — If ye love me, keep my commandments. **** http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/14/15.html



Mat 17:25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do THE KINGS OF THE EARTH [ http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa002.html#2 ] take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

Mat 17:26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

Mat 17:27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.


Mat 22:21 — They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, **** Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's:

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Dan 3:16 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we [are] not careful to answer thee in this matter.

Dan 3:17 If it be [so], our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver [us] out of thine hand, O king.

Dan 3:18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up. [GET THAT GOLD FRINGE OFF MY FLAG!]
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/22/21.html


Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Act 5:29 Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, *** We ought to obey God rather than men.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Act/Act005.html#29
*** http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Act/5/29.html

'Each U.S. Citizen has the SOVEREIGN RIGHTS of an "Individual" Nation "GUARANTEED" to them by The United States Constitution!This fact alone makes the united States of America the "only" multitude of Nations in existence. Genesis 48:19'

[GET THAT GOLD FRINGE OFF MY FLAG!]

See also: http://www.historicist.com/ojnj/index.htm

And if the Son hath made you free, ye shall be free indeed!


43 posted on 01/05/2005 12:52:32 PM PST by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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