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PBS station cancels intelligent-design film
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, January 5, 2005 | Ron Strom

Posted on 01/05/2005 12:16:14 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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1 posted on 01/05/2005 12:16:14 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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CANCEL PUBLIC FUNDING OF PBS, and let them EARN their own right to appeal to their PC viewers...


2 posted on 01/05/2005 12:20:38 AM PST by no_mm ("Give War a Chance." - Michael Savage)
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there was concern about the fact that those who funded the film have religious ties.

Am I to understand, then, that we can look forward to seeing no more pro-Muslim films on PBS from here on?

Oh...silly me. The prohibition on religion only extends to Christians.

3 posted on 01/05/2005 12:21:14 AM PST by Prime Choice (The DNC! Where boys and girls look the same! That's a little strange isn't it?)
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"Public television usually prides itself in exploring new ideas...

Well, that certainly doesn't describe intelligent design theories.. As an idle aside, I've always wondered a tiny bit why it's called "intelligent" design and not something more accurate like 'intentional design' or whatever. I mean, if some entity is actually designing all this it's hard to imagine a more incompetent, inefficient method and outcome design. I could come up with far better in one afternoon, given absolute design freedom....

4 posted on 01/05/2005 12:22:24 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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so true....

maybe NPR's own Terry Gross (!) will fill the void with Christian-specific programming that doesn't cut the muster of PBS's board...

nahhhhh....


5 posted on 01/05/2005 12:34:38 AM PST by no_mm ("Give War a Chance." - Michael Savage)
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I mean, if some entity is actually designing all this it's hard to imagine a more incompetent, inefficient method and outcome design. I could come up with far better in one afternoon, given absolute design freedom....

Well yes. Now, with examples of what not to do.

But what would your first draft look like, if it hadn't been done before?

6 posted on 01/05/2005 12:38:35 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Never apologise. Never explain.)
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...adding that PBS has to be "kind of biased" against programming with any religious connections.

...unless the point of view is agnostic, atheistic or pagan, as in Joseph Campbell's long-running series. As long as you don't happen to be a Bible-based Christian, your religion is welcome on PBS.

7 posted on 01/05/2005 12:42:57 AM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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As an idle aside, I've always wondered a tiny bit why it's called "intelligent" design and not something more accurate like 'intentional design' or whatever

Very good point.

8 posted on 01/05/2005 12:48:06 AM PST by JohnHuang2 ("You can get so well educated ... your thoughts become detached from common sense" -- Peggy Noonan)
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The prohibition on religion only extends to Christians.

Bingo.

9 posted on 01/05/2005 12:49:45 AM PST by JohnHuang2 ("You can get so well educated ... your thoughts become detached from common sense" -- Peggy Noonan)
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Given absolute design freedom I would know all the could or would be done and have every option at my disposal. The result would certainly be something different than this mess..


10 posted on 01/05/2005 12:51:05 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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Now how could they be expected to show a religious show on the public airwaves. Have you not heard of seperation of Church and state?

Don't flame me - sarcasim tag is on.


11 posted on 01/05/2005 12:54:00 AM PST by BJungNan (Did you call your congressmen to tell them to stop funding the ACLU? 202 224 3121)
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You are right, I consider atheism, humanism and the rest to be a religious tie in every way.

I checked out PBS recently in Los Angeles because I have this projector that shoots a bright 15' wide High Definition picture and HD programming is still a bit thin.

Well, I like their animal shows and travel shows, but I think you can become practically spiritually possessed watching all their other shows.
If the PBS stations were any more politically left, they would be acceptable on Al Jazeera.


12 posted on 01/05/2005 12:55:54 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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CANCEL PUBLIC FUNDING OF PBS, and let them EARN their own right to appeal to their PC viewers...

If you or I were president, we would do just that. Along with funding for the National Endowment for the Arts and many other such funding nonsense. But, we are not president so this garbage continues.

13 posted on 01/05/2005 12:56:33 AM PST by BJungNan (Did you call your congressmen to tell them to stop funding the ACLU? 202 224 3121)
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The PBS station in Detroit has been off the air for over 2 months because their tower was struck by lightning. I'll bet the thunder sounded like someone yelling "BULLSEYE."
14 posted on 01/05/2005 12:56:56 AM PST by jaykay
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To: AntiGuv
Given absolute design freedom I would know all the could or would be done and have every option at my disposal. The result would certainly be something different than this mess..

Spoken like a true engineer...

15 posted on 01/05/2005 12:57:35 AM PST by papertyger
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Atheism and humanism are big time religions. They believe MAN is god.
Those views along with other paganisms are always broadcast on PBS it seems without sensor.

God is banned, but god is OK on PBS.


16 posted on 01/05/2005 12:58:35 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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CANCEL PUBLIC FUNDING OF PBS, and let them EARN their own right to appeal to their PC viewers...

Question is, will their PC viewers put their big money where their big mouths are? Oh, silly me, I forgot. We are supposed to like being taxed to death and beyond the grave. Everyone repeat after Oliver Wendell Holmes, "I like paying taxes, they purchase civilization..." My guess is that these PC viewers don't have the guts to risk going it alone, donating to their beloved PBS/NPR without imposing that burden on the majority of us who do not agree with the PBS/NPR agenda, and maybe even to go so far as to say that we do not find their programming to be intellectually and humanly interesting.

17 posted on 01/05/2005 1:37:03 AM PST by albertp (Malice in Blunderland, The Wizard of Odd, Gullible's Troubles! Steal the wealth, spread the poverty.)
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(Yawn)

Right. Whatever.

"Intelligent" comes from the Latin meaning "to choose between"; meaning, of course, that the specified complexity that is manifest in all examples of intelligently designed objects -- including biological objects -- chose between a number of possible alternatives and came up with the one that happens to exist. It was not (nor could it have been) produced either deterministically or randomly.

"Intentional Design" would not be a bad description, except that it's redundant; anything designed is done so by intention.

You probably mean something like "Designed by Conscious Intention." ID has no position on that. The designing agency might be a conscious Creator; it might be more akin to the ancient Greek idea of "nous" -- universal Mind.

Ultimately, Darwinism is not a new idea either. The notion of explaining everything (including life) naturalistically was done by Lucretius and Epicurus.

As it turns out, some of the things that have traditionally been misunderstood by Darwinists to be examples of "poor" design are now being understood to be examples of profoundly subtle and clever design. For example, the supposedly "inside-out" construction of the mammalian eye (in which the photosensitive cells face away from the light, and the neural "plug-ins" face toward the light) is now understood to be an efficient way of preventing heat damage to the photosensitive cells without compromising visual acuity too much. Creatures that are "lucky" enough to have their photosensitive cells face outward -- the way a video engineer would probably have designed it -- usually live under the sea where the light intensity would normally never be enough to cause heat damage.

But in order to have come across this explanation (let alone appreciate it), one would have to have given up being a knee-jerk neo-Darwinist.


18 posted on 01/05/2005 2:35:55 AM PST by rhetor
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"It is simply astounding that a public television station would engage in this sort of politically correct censorship," said Rob Crowther, director of communications for the organization, in a statement. "Public television usually prides itself in exploring new ideas, not suppressing them. Doesn't anyone at KNME believe in free speech?"

Where did this guy drop from, anyway? Free speech has been reserved for evolution, democrats, commies, hollywood, the pinkos and other rats for years. Have the rules changed?


19 posted on 01/05/2005 2:56:46 AM PST by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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The opposite of intention is chance. ;)

The most efficient way to prevent heat damage to photosensitive eyes is to design them so that they are not damaged by heat..


20 posted on 01/05/2005 3:12:04 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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