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John Fund; Handwriting analyst finds 400 Washington ballots written in same hand
Hugh Hewitt | 1/4/05 | chiller

Posted on 01/04/2005 4:38:59 PM PST by chiller

details to come, just heard


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 0corruptseattle; 2004electionfraud; anothervenezuela; ballotboxstuffed; ballotstuffing; cheating; commie; commiebull; democrats; democratscheat; democratvotefraud; dinorossi; dirtytricks; electionfraud; florida2000revisited; fraud; gregoire; gregoirinch; gregore; howtostealanelection; johnfund; ratfraud; rattricks; rossi; sameoldtricks; stalinvotedgregoire; stealingelections; stuffedballot; ukraineonthepacific; votefraud; washingtonelections; washingtonfraud
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To: varon

On provisional ballots, you have to fill out information.


161 posted on 01/04/2005 6:13:50 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: dufekin
A voter can have more than one identity, and each identity can cast more than one ballot in support of a Democratic candidate.

Liberal Psychiatrist: Sir, you have multiple personality disorder.

Patient: Is that bad?

Liberal Psychiatrist: No, it just means that you can vote for John Kerry seventeen times.

162 posted on 01/04/2005 6:14:09 PM PST by reg45
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To: chiller
Observers Rush to Judgment in Caracas ~ WSJ.

& on FR:

Jimmy Carter might have at least counted a few ballots
By Mary Anastasia O'Grady

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Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens our Democracy ~ John Fund

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163 posted on 01/04/2005 6:14:43 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: chiller
My,my,my,my,my.

I've got so much going on in my mind about all of this and since I have a moment, well let me share.

First, I've been, in recent years, of a puzzlement as to why the Repubs have let this vote theft go on for so many years.

It's an old tale and I share it often, but as a child, in Baltimore city, my Dad, me and my brother, used to go downtown after the precincts closed and rig the voting machines!

Yes we did though they were the old-fashioned lever type affiars. But the electricians knew how to set them to any number required and it was the big unions behind it.

We did it mostly for local elections but I remember going all about after the election of JFK. That's NOT John Kerry.

Anyway, I went through my liberal Democratic phase and now, as a Republican, I witnessed Florida 2000, New Mexico 2000, Tom Daschle illegally elected until someone got some gonads. Also, don't forget Ashcroft running against a dead man. It goes on and on.

I was scratching my head because if I remember this so distinctly when I was but and eight year old, damn, the pubs haven't figured it out in lo , how many? Gosh, we're talking forty plus years here.

Also, now that I'm a Republican I really, really resent that the Dems are still at their old habits and likely stealing MY vote. It wasn't so bad when my side was getting the stolen votes.

This Washington thing has intrigued me from all the way across America in tiny Delaware.

I knew in my heart of hearts and from all that I read, that that election was being stole right under the Repubs eyes. I would shake my head and think, damn, now they're stealing a Governorship.

Yet I was reading, even on vaunted conservative web sites such as this fine one, exhortations for Rossi to give it up. There was a tone of resignation across conservative sites across the Internet and I simply could not believe it, could not believe it. What a bunch of wimps, I thought.

I hope, against all spineless Republican hope, that Rossi and whoever's behind him don't give this up. Because the Repubs never want to contest an election AS it is being stolen from under them. Lately it seems to me they've taken to targeting "problem areas" like New Mexico and hey, they got Daschle and his Indian buddies to stop their fraud.

I don't know why the Repub always take that position. Perhaps there was some good intentions. Because, folks, you all tell me, what the hell is going to happen now?

The Washington governor's election had already been certified! How, legally, can they force another election?

Is there anything in Washington's election law that, say, has some sort of proviso that if the opposing party finds, say, a couple hundred fake signatures or, say, a few counties with more votes than voters, then is there some way to "contest" this election? After certification that is.

Recall in the Ukraine 90 percent of the reason there was a new election was because of the bad publicity. That and Putin threw in the towel. Is that what will happen in Washington state? Are the Dems, finally faced with obvious fraud, going to have to back down? I mean they rammed through that certification after the "hand count" with a ferocity.

Maybe this is why the Repubs always back down in situations like this. The legal system is designed to expedite the certification of an election and the placement of the newly elected into their jobs. And rightfully so. But that limited time span doesn't allow for the sort of things the Repubs are doing in Washington state, ie checking signatures with handwriting experts, yada, yada.

Thus the only way to "save" a stolen election besides preventing it the next time, is to raise a ruckous like Rossi is doing now. And HOPE that public sentiment swings your way.

Which brings me to my final thought. This is such bad publicity for America. I mean, damn, didn't President Bush himself complain about the Ukraine elections for the international radar? I can see the London Guardian headlines now. Yet another reason, I'm supposing, the Repubs always let the Dems steal elections.

There is so much to gain, even in the face of adversity, in doing what the pubs are doing in Washington state, despite the drawbacks. First, this is really flying below the national radar right now. But let Washington state announce it plans a new election and the beltway will be buzzing. That kind of national attention will draw so much attention to these Dem shenanigans that future dividends will be realized in some genuine skepticism when the Dems cry wolf in the future.

Anyway, I'm done. If anyone lives in Washington state I'd sure be interested in how the local citizenry is taking all this. I'm a blogger and I'm wanting to do a big post on all of this.

164 posted on 01/04/2005 6:14:45 PM PST by Fishtalk (Once a liberal and victim of all the spin. Ask me to interpret.)
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To: chiller

Are those legs I'm starting to see appear on this story?


165 posted on 01/04/2005 6:14:56 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: citizencon
This is textbook election fraud.

And guess who wrote the textbook.

166 posted on 01/04/2005 6:15:51 PM PST by reg45
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To: Sir Lurks Alot

Should the WA GOP take to the streets?


167 posted on 01/04/2005 6:16:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: chiller

< sarc >Big deal! Just some kind individual helping out some 'homeless' people so they aren't disinfranchised! < /sarc >


168 posted on 01/04/2005 6:16:26 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Triskaidekaphobia ? Never heard of it !)
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To: Moose4

You are thinking of a legal election held by honest officials. What is to stop a crooked election judge from signing up 400 illegal voters before the poles open or after the polls close? Nothing.


169 posted on 01/04/2005 6:17:16 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Rodney King
I have never met John Fund but have seen him on t.v. a million times. He always seems extremely intelligent and comes across as a first rate journalist. If he is a woman beater he sure as hell fooled me.
170 posted on 01/04/2005 6:19:10 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First let's get rid of the UN and then the ACLU, or vice versa..)
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To: chiller

This should be interesting.


171 posted on 01/04/2005 6:20:33 PM PST by Peach
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To: BenLurkin
Should the WA GOP take to the streets?

YES!, It's What Puget Sound FReepers Do Best!
172 posted on 01/04/2005 6:20:56 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: chiller

Does the handwriting match Dan Rather's?


173 posted on 01/04/2005 6:22:25 PM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: Moose4
Maybe not on the ballot itself, but don't they have to sign their name when they get checked off the voter roll? I know that here in South Carolina, I had to first go to a table where a lady had the master voter list for my precinct. I showed her my driver's license and voter registration card (either one would've been sufficient by itself), she found me on the voter list, and asked me to sign the register. Although I guess it'd be hard for the same person to keep coming in over and over again to do that

Not if the "same person" was already there. Remember, there were about 527 "voters" in precinct 1823 who all used the King County administration building, 241 of which used room 553 - the KC Election and Records office - as their apartment number. Wouldn't it be fun if it's these voter registrations whose handwriting's all match? And what could be more entertaining than interviewing whovever accepted all those "homeless" ballots!

174 posted on 01/04/2005 6:22:49 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Fight for freedom & honor now or spend the rest of your life on your knees. New WA election!)
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To: 4woodenboats
My wife has worked in our local precinct for over 20 years and nothing like this could ever happen down here. There are too many checks and balances. What the hell happened to king county? That should be a good starting place for a federal investigation.
175 posted on 01/04/2005 6:27:59 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First let's get rid of the UN and then the ACLU, or vice versa..)
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To: BARLF

Here in WA state a LARGE number of us vote absentee - maybe 60% (that's just a guess but I think it's in the ballpark).

We do not have to go to a notary. Fill out the ballot, put it in the blank envelope. Put the blank envelope in the outer envelope seal and sign it. Mail it or drop it off at the precinct.

Theoretically they compare the signatures on the outer envelope against the registration card.


176 posted on 01/04/2005 6:28:43 PM PST by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: fastattacksailor
Gee---the Dems are using fraud!

I am sure that the Governor Alleged, C. G. will call a press conference and volunteer as Attorney General to investigate the obvious Republican vote fraud....but wait the new Attorney General will be in office and he is a "Republican." My oh my! This could get interesting!

177 posted on 01/04/2005 6:28:52 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Fishtalk

bttttttt


178 posted on 01/04/2005 6:29:01 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Maceman
What kind of handwriting could there be on a ballot? It's not like people have to sign their names to them.

Maybe they mean on the envelopes of the absentee ballots. We have a lot of absentee votes here in Washington.

179 posted on 01/04/2005 6:30:43 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Fishtalk
The Washington State Constitution has a provision that permits a state court to annul an election if it is marred by incompetence or fraud. This was last done in 1974.

There is some question as to whether the court has the authority to set the date and terms of a new election or whether that right belongs to the legislature.

180 posted on 01/04/2005 6:32:15 PM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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