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The Sin of Divorce
Renew America ^ | 01/04/2005 | Adam Graham

Posted on 01/04/2005 12:24:26 PM PST by Keyes2000mt

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To: nopardons

Agree about a lot of the church counseling.

Not all of it. Many marriages are stopped that shouldn't be, because of it.

Silly? Not as silly as ignoring God's standards . . . and suffering judgment therefore.

THERE IS *NO* FREEDOM WITHOUT RESPONSIBILITY. IGNORING THE RESPONSIBILITIES, EVENTUALLY RESULTS IN A SUBTRACTION--MAYBE A BIG SUBTRACTION OF FREEDOMS. You can call that draconian, if you wish.

Not as draconian as the tsunami. Not as draconian as the judgment headed for the USA. Not NEAR that draconian.

God will not long be mocked. Especially in our era. Toooooo much is stored up by people far too long too blessed with too much truth--to which they've been giving the middle finger along with to THE TRUTH'S SOURCE, AUTHOR--GOD ALMIGHTY.

THAT'S SILLY.


521 posted on 01/04/2005 9:31:05 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Gabz
Did you see his post to me? He didn't slither off quite fast enough!

I feel sorry for his wife and daughters!

522 posted on 01/04/2005 9:32:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Petruchio

I've seen an amazing number of those.

My heart goes out to them.

We all have trouble saying no to some things . . . hopefully not to that degree.

I almost ache and weap to see some of them. I'm more embarrassed for them, than they are.


523 posted on 01/04/2005 9:32:49 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: bigjoesaddle
But one stat that is interesting is that kids do better if one of their parents DIE than if they both are alive, but get divorced. Dr. Laura has mentioned this many times.

I just have to wonder if this is one of these made up stats that zealots (I don't mean you) like to repeat. Its just common sense that a child growing up in a dysfunctional home isn't the best environment for a child.

524 posted on 01/04/2005 9:33:08 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: codyjacksmom

Lots and lots of nutters on this thread. Put them in their place or ignore them. :-)


525 posted on 01/04/2005 9:33:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Melas

I felt a huge mountain lift off when wife married her co-worker. No children.

The Scripture about a contentious woman is like a continual dripping took on new meaning when it was suddenly gone.

I married for life and was doing almost as well as I knew how. Was expecting to do so the rest of my life regardless.

But I've been much more blessed since.

Still, I would not recommend it or support it in any general sense except in cases of physical abuse or chronic neglect and emotional abuse that is stubbornly resistent to correction.


526 posted on 01/04/2005 9:35:08 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: dsc

Horse pucky!


527 posted on 01/04/2005 9:36:12 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Gabz; nopardons

No danger of such happening.

But, it's NOT AS MUCH LUNACY as the suffering currently flooding our nation due to the casual attitude toward divorce. NOT NEAR AS MUCH LUNACY.

Sooooooooooooo, what better ideas do YOU have?


528 posted on 01/04/2005 9:36:39 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: nopardons

Thank you!!!!!!!!

My daughter is only 6.......and Daddy has already determined she will not date until she is at least 21 or out of college! He has also mentioned all-girl boarding school. His attitude is that he remembers what he was like as a teenager and wants to protect his daughter from jerks like him!!!!!


529 posted on 01/04/2005 9:36:49 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Keyes2000mt

I thought the Bible was pretty clear, in the Commandments, that adultry is a sin. I think the people who oppose gay marriage should also try to recriminalise adultry and end no-fault divorces, with the party at fault facing jail time.


530 posted on 01/04/2005 9:36:53 PM PST by johnmilken (capitalism = free trade = allowing the market to allocate resources)
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To: nopardons

Great rant!!!!!!!


531 posted on 01/04/2005 9:37:14 PM PST by Gabz
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To: dsc

I have no idea what you are talking about.


532 posted on 01/04/2005 9:39:57 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Hmmm...all-girls schools are notorious breeding grounds for lesbian 'phases'. Safe [in some respects], but perhaps not what you had in mind.

Sadly, experience [or great models] is still the best teacher. Ther jerks will still be there when she's 21 and at college you will have no control over anything.


533 posted on 01/04/2005 9:40:11 PM PST by johnmilken (capitalism = free trade = allowing the market to allocate resources)
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To: dsc
People who suffer from disorders spend enormous amounts of energy lying to themselves and others.

This is just one of those "denial is the first symptom" fallacies.

534 posted on 01/04/2005 9:40:23 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Gabz
Thanks Gabz...I've heard you are a real sweetheart!! It does seem that the people that haven't been through a nightmare marriage, take it upon themselves to dictate and judge those of us that have. Everyone, including the kids, will be better off when I am able to finally get out of this hell hole I am in.
535 posted on 01/04/2005 9:40:29 PM PST by codyjacksmom (Proud, new 1st time grandma as of 11/07/04....now it's payback time!)
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To: Howlin

In terms of humans . . .

since Christ ascended . . .

there is none righteous, no, not one.


536 posted on 01/04/2005 9:41:45 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: nopardons

I feel sorry for the spouses and offspring of any of the santimonious twits.


537 posted on 01/04/2005 9:42:02 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Quix
Quix,my daughter and s-i-l went through months of supposed marriage counseling/classes before they got married (one had to,or they couldn't be married in that church!)and it was not only boring and an utter waste of time,it was complete piffle! How to keep a check book,taught to a bunch of upper middle to the highest class of mid 20 something to 30 somethings,who all were professionally successful people? And that was the "best" of it. LOL

Neither did it "stop" any of the planned marriages from taking place.

I absolutely refuse,outright,to get into the gutter with you ,re the "wrath of GOD on the USA".The tsunami wasn't GOD's punishment and neither was 9/11.

Even the Taliban didn't enact what you proposed. LOL

538 posted on 01/04/2005 9:45:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Thanks NP...You know more than most about my situation and I thank you for your support and your compassion. I get such a kick out of the people that are so quick to throw their judgment around, having never experienced what I and others here have gone through. The verse keeps reverberating through my head, "Judge not, lest you be judged." I enjoy letting them know exactly what I think of them. :) Thanks for caring and worrying about me!
539 posted on 01/04/2005 9:45:41 PM PST by codyjacksmom (Proud, new 1st time grandma as of 11/07/04....now it's payback time!)
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To: Howlin

It did me, Howlin.

And, I'm very thankfull to be better--though I earnestly tried hard at my marriage. I listened, drew my wife out nightly after work; bought her clothes she got more compliments on than those she selected etc. But I wasn't macho enough, interestingly.

Anyhow--obedience is still better than sacrifice.

I can look back and see priorities I should have tried even harder at. And, she had some daddy stuff in the way somehow that in her counseling after the divorce, surfaced and she noted that I was right and a good man. That and $5 will get half a cup of coffee. . .

anyway--there's got to be better ways to becoming a better person than the traumas of divorce. Otherwise, this society is sunk.

But then it's sunk anyway for a lot of other reasons.


540 posted on 01/04/2005 9:45:51 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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