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Al Qaeda fighters 'are entering Iraq from Saudi'
Gulf Daily News ^ | 1/3/05 | PHIL SANDS

Posted on 01/04/2005 9:42:05 AM PST by Straight Vermonter

BASRA: Large numbers of Al Qaeda fighters are still crossing freely from Saudi Arabia into Southern Iraq, according to senior military officials in Basra.

Terrorists and weapons continue to flow into the country as it gears up for elections, said Colonel Jouke Spolestra, in charge of security sector reform in the southern Iraqi provinces.

Col Spolestra, of the Royal Netherlands Navy, said that despite regular military patrols and raids on suspected insurgent strongholds, British-led forces had failed to halt the trafficking in personnel and arms.

"People are coming in from Saudi Arabia, that is one cause of concern for us. There is a flow of weapons, illegal immigrants and of course even Al Qaeda. We do have patrols, but it is an open border," he said.

The Dutch officer, serving alongside British forces as part of the multinational division, said ancient desert trails and newer tunnels enabled fighters to enter Iraq undetected.

He also conceded there was little accurate intelligence on the numbers of militants making the trip.

He insisted newly trained Iraqi border police and European military contingents were capturing fighters - but admitted only a tiny fraction were actually caught. "Quite often there are arrests being made," he said.

"We pick up all kinds of people, maybe terrorists, foreign fighters, people coming from Yemen or Saudi Arabia. Also weapons smugglers.

"The whole spectrum of smugglers of terrorists are being caught, but it is probably only a small percentage.

Saudi Arabia shares a 300km border with Southern Iraq, mainly inhospitable desert conditions.

This length and harsh environment means military chiefs have given up trying to police the actual border-line, concentrating instead on main transit routes.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; iraq2005; saudiarabia
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1 posted on 01/04/2005 9:42:05 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter

Make'um eat oil. You are either with us or against us.


2 posted on 01/04/2005 9:44:52 AM PST by VastRWCon
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To: Straight Vermonter

Shoot first, ask questions later...


3 posted on 01/04/2005 9:46:12 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: Straight Vermonter
There is a flow of .....illegal immigrants and of course even Al Qaeda. We do have patrols, but it is an open border," he said.

Hmmm....sounds vaguely familiar.

4 posted on 01/04/2005 9:46:42 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Straight Vermonter

The Hotel California, you can check in but you can never check out.


5 posted on 01/04/2005 9:46:46 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: Straight Vermonter

Hmm...I thought our efforts in Iraq had nothing to do with fighting terrorists, or al Qaeda in particular.


6 posted on 01/04/2005 9:50:59 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: Straight Vermonter

I have been hearing a good deal as to how the Brits, with their long experience with wogs and fuzzy-wuzzies, have been maintaining their safety by simply ignoring all the islamist activity in their sector.


7 posted on 01/04/2005 9:51:00 AM PST by sinanju
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To: Straight Vermonter

You make your money selling oil, the less oil in the World the higher the price. You can destabalize that large oil producer to the North and prevent their oil from coming on the market. If you was the King of Saudi Arabra would you want a successful Iraq?


8 posted on 01/04/2005 9:53:02 AM PST by Swiss
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To: Coop


9 posted on 01/04/2005 10:00:09 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: My2Cents

It doesn't and it's all Bush's fault!


10 posted on 01/04/2005 10:01:12 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

It's kinda ridiculous to think the U.S. can secure a border in the Middle East when we won't even do it here.


11 posted on 01/04/2005 10:01:28 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If whiskey was his mistress, his true love was the West . . .)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Sounds like a plan to me. The allies should funnel terrorists into one area and kill them when they get there. The more we kill with the best trained Army in the world, the less we'll have to deal with in America with an untrained citizenry.


12 posted on 01/04/2005 10:01:49 AM PST by caisson71
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The Sauds are making their new deal with China...we should take them out now...rather than wait...waiting only increases the numbers of our guys on the ground in Iraq...

Of course the idea of holding Saudi Arabia responsible for the terrorism going on in Iraq today let alone the events of 09-11... doesn't seem to sit well with some folks in DC

imo
13 posted on 01/04/2005 10:03:18 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Alberta's Child

They'll never get the southern boarder of Iraq with Saudi secured. There is absolutely NOTHING out there (which describes Saudi Arabia in general).


14 posted on 01/04/2005 10:04:41 AM PST by xusafflyer (Keep paying those taxes California. Mexico thanks you.)
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To: Straight Vermonter; marron; Allan; Mitchell

Saudi? What a surprise...

Neat way to keep oil prices up.

Probably the Saudi connection explains the reticence of our govt. in explaining where the foreign fighters are coming from. I don't think the Ba'athists have an interest in killing themselves, though their networks are still strong and maybe organizing the bombings.


15 posted on 01/04/2005 10:11:40 AM PST by Shermy
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Azzaman - Letters from Basra

By Fateh Abdulsalam Azzaman, 2004-12-21 I have received several letters from Iraqis in Basra in which they express their dissatisfaction with the current situation in the city. The senders are unanimous that political parties and armed groups are in control of the city affairs rather than police or security forces. Residents, the letters say, are paying dearly to political and armed conflicts between the various groups. The role of government police and security organs is that of a spectator while the real power rests with a new breed of security organizations, they add. Here are samples of a few letters whose authors agreed to have their names published: "Basra is put up for sale. Foreigners are buying almost everything in it on the cheap and we the real citizens fail to get land measuring a span of the hand to build a new house. Prices are soaring and the only buyers are Kuwaitis who are buying property en mass in the heart of the city. Iranians, on the other hand, have concentrated their buying spree on the outskirts particularly orchards and palm tree groves. Believe me they have bought almost everything," writes Abdulkarim al-Battat. Sami Askar writes: "Persian is now the language of choice and not Arabic. Persian is not restricted to trading. It is becoming the language of day-to-day affairs. You need Persian to communicate with the militiamen. You rarely know what these fighters want. Their hearts seem to be made of stone and their hostile eyes spell vengeance. They are like occupation forces." (excerpt)
16 posted on 01/04/2005 10:15:38 AM PST by Wiz
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It's kinda ridiculous to think the U.S. can secure a border in the Middle East

Why do we want to? We want these guys coming to Iraq. That's where we have our military, waiting to greet them and send them on their way to their heavenly rewards. Never mind Iraq, let's drain the whole swamp while we have the armaments there to do it with. Better we meet them there than on the streets of our cities.


17 posted on 01/04/2005 10:23:44 AM PST by Nick Danger (Now with Kung-Fu death grip)
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To: johniegrad

I thought you could check out any time you like, but you could never leave.


18 posted on 01/04/2005 10:27:13 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Straight Vermonter

Any place where Allah Is in charge in suspect and unreliable as a an ally.


19 posted on 01/04/2005 10:30:08 AM PST by Delbert
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To: odoso; joesnuffy

But wait!!Is'nt the US planning to sell the PAC-3 ATBM to Saudi Arabia & also upgrade it's E-3s & M1A1s??


I read all that on FR.


20 posted on 01/04/2005 10:38:34 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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