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Married, without children: Finding fulfillment with no kids
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 1/3/05 | Mark Wolf

Posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by qam1

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To: don-o

No joke: It is actually marriage as envisioned by the fine leftist lawyers of the American Bar Association.

Children are not part of marriage IS thier goal. They wrote it into their model divorce code. That model divorce code is the ONLY ONE used by legislators because it is the ONLY ONE. (it also envisions child visitation standing for homosexual recreational sex partners of divorcing mothers/fathers because children are mere ACCESSORIES to marriage. per ABA)

as I said, no joke, no sacasm, very real, very here.


181 posted on 01/03/2005 9:36:58 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Prime Choice
When I was in collage I cleaned houses to pay for school. One woman I cleaned for was about 80 years old. She had lived a full life. She retired from two careers. Had awards from every president from FDR to Reagan. Knew everyone who was anyone. Trophies, placks(?), you name it. Even the medal (sorry don't remember the name) given to civilians for valor.
She however told me many times with tears in her eyes that none of it made any difference, as there was no child to share it with.
If she could have relived her life knowing what she knew, she told me that she would have given it all up, to be able to have children and grandchildren.
In a nut shell her life was a waste of conceit. Her words not mine.
My heart broke for her, but there was nothing that could be done, it was to late.
182 posted on 01/03/2005 9:37:00 AM PST by roylene
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To: qam1
Not having children is a definite sign of immaturity. It never occurred to me to have kids, even after I married, until a grew up some. And then the kids came and I found out I only thought I was a grownup.

I was frustrated for a while that I had no time for all my little projects and hobbies. After a while, it dawned on me that the kids are more challenging and rewarding than anything else I will ever do.

Most people without kids simply can't relate. They see the time demands and constraints of children to be heinous, even on people other than themselves.

But the older I get, the more I feel my own mortality, the more I realize that time spent on myself is more of a necessity than an entitlement or priviledge. And spending too much time on myself is just vanity, a waste that neither makes me nor anyone else happy.

183 posted on 01/03/2005 9:37:25 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: qam1
Not having children is a definite sign of immaturity. It never occurred to me to have kids, even after I married, until a grew up some. And then the kids came and I found out I only thought I was a grownup.

I was frustrated for a while that I had no time for all my little projects and hobbies. After a while, it dawned on me that the kids are more challenging and rewarding than anything else I will ever do.

Most people without kids simply can't relate. They see the time demands and constraints of children to be heinous, even on people other than themselves.

But the older I get, the more I feel my own mortality, the more I realize that time spent on myself is more of a necessity than an entitlement or priviledge. And spending too much time on myself is just vanity, a waste that neither makes me nor anyone else happy.

184 posted on 01/03/2005 9:37:26 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: EternalVigilance
What I want to know is why so many of these childless couples end up having a pack of dogs they treat like children...

Dogs are better in one regard, You can housebreak a dog within a week, while you will be changing dirty diapers for 2+ years with a kid. Evolution and/or the Intelligent Designer really screwed that one up.

185 posted on 01/03/2005 9:37:32 AM PST by qam1 (Anyone who was born in New Jersey should not be allowed to drive at night or on hills.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Overtaxed

True enough, on both parts. :~D


186 posted on 01/03/2005 9:37:42 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: L98Fiero

I understand your rant, but if all those who did not want children never got pregnant there would lees innocent babies murdered for blood money.


187 posted on 01/03/2005 9:37:55 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: exnavychick

The secular left is focused on self and seeking pleasure.

It is a part of the culture war in differences on understanding the role of religion in society ("Church and State"), the homosexual agenda, and the lack of will to back school vouchers (no kids, no worry about schools).


188 posted on 01/03/2005 9:38:44 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: cyborg
I was referring to these little liberal coffee klatches where they all get together and pat themselves on the back for not having kids and being smarter than women who stay at home.

I think it's important to point out the "degrees" of childlessness. For instance, I know a couple who is not going to "try" to have children, but they don't like to call themselves "Childless by Choice" or whatever the women above are touting, because if they did happen to get pregnant, they would welcome "God's Little Surprise" and raise it whereas other "Childless by Choice" couples would go to ANY lengths--including abortion--to not have children.

189 posted on 01/03/2005 9:39:17 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: hopespringseternal
Not having children is a definite sign of immaturity.

Having children that you cannot afford is a sign of immaturity. Having children even though you despise screaming, snotty brats is a sign of immaturity.

190 posted on 01/03/2005 9:39:45 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: EternalVigilance
She also never said, "Goodnight Daddy, I love you..."

That maybe true but at 16, I also don't have to worry about driving lessons, who Hillary Duff is dating and general teenage angst. We can still head to the park and play fetch.

191 posted on 01/03/2005 9:39:55 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: cyborg
It really IS no one's business but they opened it up for discussion by putting themselves in a news article

I see this "no one's business" asserted on a few replies. I'm going to disagree. Formation of families and the protection of same is the foundation upon which society is built. Celebrating voluntary childlessness is a subtle way to weaken that foundation.

Similar the gay agenda; that can do as they will, but don't try to sell me on that "one choice is as good as another" nonsense. It ain't so.

192 posted on 01/03/2005 9:40:29 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: durasell
In my opinion it's better to not have kids than to have kids and make a mess of the raising of them. Perhaps the people in the article don't feel as if they're cut out to be parents.

True enough.... The thing is, I know I'd be an excellent mom. My husbnd would be a great dad. I just have a completely different life that would have to change. For the next few years, I'd like to have that life. We just got married. We'd like to keep the plans for the life we married for and not turn all that upside down. But time's ticking against us, and I am not sure it is fair to have babies at 40.

193 posted on 01/03/2005 9:40:34 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: EternalVigilance

Easier to care for than kids. When a dog barfs it's not that big a deal :-)


194 posted on 01/03/2005 9:40:54 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I know this is harsh, but...I'm a complete asshole.

LOL! That's the first time I've ever read that admission posted on FR, but certainly not the first time it should have been posted! I know many FReepers who should have that as their tagline.

195 posted on 01/03/2005 9:41:10 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: bigeasy_70118

At eighteen, I got to watch my daughter walk down the aisle.

Much better than fetch, IMO.


196 posted on 01/03/2005 9:41:14 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Shaking nine point oh - With a deadly wave goodbye - oh four departed...)
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To: HairOfTheDog

That's one reason I dreaded visiting my grandmother in the rest home. Our family had it set up so someone visited her every day for several years. There was only one lady I remember who had her husband visit every day. When the rest home staff commpliment you on visiting often, you just have to wonder.....


197 posted on 01/03/2005 9:41:24 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Rummyfan
Honestly when I look back on it, I don't know how my parents managed it:

I am the oldest of ten kids. I told my mom one time that when I think back on what it took to get us all ready for church on Sunday I am just amazed. I asked her how she did it and she just said, "We just did it." One of my fondest memories of my dad is when us kids would line up in front of him so he could brush our hair.

198 posted on 01/03/2005 9:41:59 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: cyborg

I ain't touching that one! LOL...


199 posted on 01/03/2005 9:42:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Shaking nine point oh - With a deadly wave goodbye - oh four departed...)
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To: HairOfTheDog

You have a tougher choice to make than the people in the story, which was kind of a nothing story in the first place.


200 posted on 01/03/2005 9:43:31 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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