Posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by qam1
And yet you hang around with me, martin, CD, and presidio. :-)
"Being childless and having abortions are from the same root: selfishness. Period, end of story. If you could have, but do not have, kids, why waste the oxygen? I know this is harsh, but..."
You can only apply this attitude to someone whom you absolutely know to be childless for nothing but selfish "I don't want to take the time to care" reasons. The problem is that so many people who think like you apply this attitude to someone BEFORE understanding why they are childless. It may not stem from selfishness and isn't your business anyway. So don't assume that selfishness is the root, as you put it, when you just don't know.
And there is no evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that child-free couples vote liberal.
You must have missed all the articles regarding the strongest indication of who voted for whom. Childless folks went for Kerry, while parents went for Bush.
In my opinion it's better to not have kids than to have kids and make a mess of the raising of them. Perhaps the people in the article don't feel as if they're cut out to be parents.
I agree that this couple opened the door to this discussion. However, I'm just not sure why people are so hostile to them choosing not to have kids. I don't really buy the idea that having kids is some sort of magical, wonderful thing. All it takes is a couple of drunk 16 year-olds and poor attention to birth-control.
In any event, these two do strike me as sort of whiny, but it is true that once your friends start having kids, your friendship is more or less over at that point.
To all the people calling these folks "selfish":
Do you think married people who don't want children should have them???
Stop and think for a moment.
LOL. I can certainly relate to that. I have figured that each week visiting them translates into six months of therapy. ;-)
Yep, same with the childless by choice friends that I have.
This is a propaganda thing.
The left wants to equate the childless "normal" couples (aka DINKs) with unable-to-produce children homosexual couples.
This is about making marriage not part of childraising
As for the woman complaining about not getting a party for not having children. Nobody is throwing her a party for NOT climbing Mount Everest either.
Selfish is right. Well, all of these couples had better get on board with open borders. We'll need illegals to have all the children who will work and pay taxes, in order to support social security in 20 years. Read Mark Steyn. Look at the enlightened Eurasian Empire and consider...
You don't know what kind of groups I'm referring to. I'm not talking about some sort of church group, or conservative couples. I never said being childless was a bad thing. I was referring to these little liberal coffee klatches where they all get together and pat themselves on the back for not having kids and being smarter than women who stay at home.
That's not for me to decide. For my own case, I have four children. I am praying that I have good daughter and son-in-laws. I am preparing for my emotional future. I want more than anything to be the type of person others will want to be around when I am old and feeble. Others can do what they wish. I, on the other hand, want to be surrounded by family on my deathbed.
"To all the people calling these folks "selfish":
Do you think married people who don't want children should have them???
Stop and think for a moment."
And do you really think that the only reason someone doesn't have kids is selfishness? Unless you have quotes straight from that person like those in the article, you can't know why someone is childless and cannot assume a selfish motive.
We're not kid people.
We could've related to that. I also didn't relish the idea of working, paying bills, and being responsible in general. Maturity comes with accepting that responsibility and is rarely there before it is needed. That said, we now have 9 children and I wouldn't choose a different lifestyle.
The term "most likely" may not be 100% accurate, but it does leave out many people. I have seen people decide to HAVE children for all the wrong reasons as well.
Bingo!
Seventh of nine children here. You don't see many such large families these days. Good luck Tax-Chick!
To do:
1. knock up girlfriend....
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