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To: nightdriver
Adherence to that line of thinking (don't forget baby dinosaurs on Noah's ark, I heard that one once too) will pretty much erect a wall between the scientific and engineering community that I operate in and the Gospel of Christ that they need so desperately.

I can only tell you and those I share with that I trust implicitly in Jesus Christ as my Savior. I believe that His claim to being the "I AM" is the truth that allows me to know that He can be the only doorway to eternal life.

Just as no one can explain what happened with time, space and matter initially after the so-called Big Bang, I can not explain scientifically how God instantly stretched light across millions of light years of space.

Jesus Christ is revealed to us through the Holy Spirit inspired and preserved Word of God. If the Holy Spirit failed at preserving the Word of God for our generation, then we cannot help but be believing in a potential lie.

There are passages of scripture which are confusing; many of which we become enlightened of by spiritual maturity, and some that elude us even with rigorous study and prayer. However, so much of scripture is very straightforward, and is not couched in obscure poetic language, that a good grasp of what a relationship with the Creator is about, can be discovered by a child.

My fear is that the wedge of "Scientism" associated with the exclusive teaching of Materialistic Evolution can only be seen as a wedge to deter an investigation of scripture. By painting the foundational passages of the Old Testament (not only Genesis), as mythologic stories, plays into the hands of the enemy of Christ.

Well, OK. You are free to believe whatever you want, but none of the verses that you have proffered prove that.

Science does not have the answers to origins, nor does it have the answers to speciation. These critical topics are covered in detail within the passages of scripture. The Bible reveals that God created our universe, our planet, and specifically details the special creation of man and all of the other living things. I cannot see how anyone who has read the Bible would say it does not describe these events. The clincher is that it is consistently presented throughout the Old and New Testaments as it is revealed in the book of Genesis.

Does that make it harder to share with a skeptic? You bet it does, because they disregard the supernatural! The virgin birth and the resurrection are easier to swallow if a person can afford the potential of an Almighty Intelligent Designer.

412 posted on 01/04/2005 1:10:23 AM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: bondserv
My fear is that the wedge of "Scientism" associated with the exclusive teaching of Materialistic Evolution can only be seen as a wedge to deter an investigation of scripture.

Understandable, but faith in the Creator must be greater than that. If the Evolutionists test, let them test. God's decrees will far surpass the scrutiny of mortal man, no questions. Yet, the indications are there the earth and hosts of heaven bear witness to the timelessness of their Creator. One must observe the heavens and see the stars are totally out of man's reach - yet they consistantly reach us with their steady, faithful stream of light - much like the Sovereign.

I have yet to find credible evidence in scripture supporting a young earth, but much to support the theory Adam's race toward death didn't begin until after he was removed from paradise.

That, my friend, is supported by Genesis - but then, it's only my theory of creation too.

438 posted on 01/04/2005 7:20:58 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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