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BUSH ON ROE (statement the president might make to disentangle the issues)
NY POST ^ | January 2, 2005 | GEORGE F. WILL

Posted on 01/02/2005 5:02:17 AM PST by Liz

A Supreme Court vacancy may soon ignite a controversy involving two entangled issues — abortion, and the role of courts in this constitutional democracy. Herewith a statement the president might usefully make sometime, somewhere, to disentangle the issues:

"Because I think it is improper to ask how a prospective judicial nominee would vote on a specific question, I shall not know how my nominees would rule in the event — an unlikely event — that the court revisits the constitutional foundation of abortion rights established by Roe v. Wade in 1973. However, I will seek judicial nominees disinclined to concoct spurious constitutional mandates for their policy preferences, as I believe the justices did in Roe. On the other hand, the orderly development of constitutional law requires that justices be generally disposed to respect precedents, even dubious ones, if they have been repeatedly reaffirmed for decades.

"I believe abortion is wrong, but also that states should have, as they did until Roe, the power to set abortion policy. If states come to conclusions different than mine, so be it. But remember: Were Roe overturned, that would not make abortion illegal; it would merely re-empower states to regulate the practice. And restoring the legal conditions of 1973 would not restore the social context of 1973.

---SNIP---

"......Roe, which discovered a right to abortion in the emanations of penumbras — or was it penumbras of emanations? — of other rights, was judicial overreaching, indistinguishable from legislating.

........the only policy choices possible in the context of Roe — about, for example, late-term abortions, parental notification, public funding — people can be pro-choice with nuances. That is one reason why in 2004 one-third of pro-choice voters supported me.

--SNIP--

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; humansacrifice; prenataldeathpenalty; ritualmurder; scotus
And, of course, the utter savagery of partial-birth abortions is the be-all and end-all abortion consensus issue.
1 posted on 01/02/2005 5:02:17 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
So now the NYPost thinks it should advise the President on what he should do?

How presumptuous or them! And Idiotic!
2 posted on 01/02/2005 7:01:43 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

Written by George Will....syndicated columnist.


3 posted on 01/02/2005 7:07:00 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Bigh4u2

So now the NYPost thinks it should advise the President on what he should do?

How presumptuous or them! And Idiotic!




Why? Is the president a god, or might he, like the rest of us mortals, benefit from some good advice from time to time?

Its George Will, by the way, not the NY Post. They just carry his column. In any case, whether it's good advice or not, it's often amusing, like this time.


4 posted on 01/02/2005 7:07:14 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Liz

Looks like Bush is taking the emotion out of the argument. Once that happens Roe is dead.


5 posted on 01/02/2005 7:08:56 AM PST by marty60
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To: Bigh4u2

I had to look through a couple of times before realizing this is really George Will speaking fancifully about what I suppose he wishes the President would say.

-- Joe


6 posted on 01/02/2005 7:12:16 AM PST by Joe Republc
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To: Liz

Abortion is a ritual murder before an idolatry of one's own vanity upon an altar of conceit...

A pre-natal summary execution...


7 posted on 01/02/2005 8:12:09 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Nicely put. Good analogies.


8 posted on 01/02/2005 8:34:39 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz

Whenever the Left protests an adjudicated execution, we should respond by carrying giant placards of aborted babies before the news media...

You would never see capital punishment protests on television with unavoidable big pictures of abortions mixed in, would you???


9 posted on 01/02/2005 8:52:55 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Liz

when my children were growing up, there were times when I supported 'post-birth abortion" up to the 54th trimester (18)--but that was rooted in annoyance because they were doing something that bothered me.

What made my impulsive thinking moot were the overwhelming gratifications I got when they smiled at me or did something that made me proud to be their dad.

The truth is that MOST abortions are also rooted in the psychology of the mother that the impending birth of a child is an annoyance. Unfortunately, the presumptive mother doesn't have the gratification of a smile from her unborn child to curb the annoyance impulse.


10 posted on 01/02/2005 9:24:15 AM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill

Abortion has aleays been about convenience notwithstanding all of the deceptive high-sounding humanistic arguments posited by pro-aborts.


11 posted on 01/02/2005 9:31:04 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Liz
States' rights are irrelevant. As soon as fetus obtains legal standing - that is the legal term - before the court, the federal laws against murder will apply. Abortion must end or America will lose her moral voice in the world.
12 posted on 01/02/2005 10:25:50 AM PST by derheimwill (Love is a person, not an emotion.)
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To: derheimwill

Re: "Abortion must end or America will lose her moral voice in the world."

Too late. 40 million and counting. Hitler would be proud.


13 posted on 01/02/2005 11:17:44 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: Liz

George Will is a sellout of whom real pro-lifers should be completely ashamed.


14 posted on 01/15/2005 10:52:09 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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