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NASCAR'S RED FLAG (NASCAR Racetrack Planned for new York City!)
New York Post ^ | January 2, 2005 | SAM SMITH

Posted on 01/02/2005 1:38:00 AM PST by nickcarraway

NASCAR promoters hoping to build a huge racetrack on Staten Island say they can manage traffic, but critics wonder if they're just going around in circles.

The 80,000-seat, $550 million stadium would be built in the northwest corner of the borough, between two chronically choked highways and near the notoriously slow two-lane Goethals Bridge.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bluestate; nascar; nascasr; newyorkcity; redstate
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To: MarkL
They've got another problem. Which other race will be canceled to give NYC a big one? The recent experience with Darlington losing it's races should tell them something.
41 posted on 01/02/2005 5:10:16 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant)
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To: Recon Dad

Franzrebs owned the stables. There's housing there now


42 posted on 01/02/2005 5:11:27 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: durasell

"...on a trapline..." Maybe a trotline or a limbline even juglines but trapline is for furry animals and PETA people.


43 posted on 01/02/2005 5:15:27 AM PST by em2vn
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To: Vermonter

I wasn't sure of the spelling, but they were neighbors of my aunt and uncle over on Hardt Blvd. I've been off the Island for a long time so my knowledge is very dated, but I still have very fond feeling for my time there.


44 posted on 01/02/2005 5:53:46 AM PST by Recon Dad (Good SI knowledge)
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To: Recon Dad

I hung out at the stables for a time as a kid. I lived on Hoyt Ave. My sister still lives on the island and I go back every year or so. It's nothing like it was when I was a kid. Was back in October for a funeral. Couldn't live there now.


45 posted on 01/02/2005 5:56:11 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: Vermonter

Was the funeral at Casey's? Old family friends. Jackie Casey and his two sister were people I kind of hung out with. I was kind of a regular at the Hofbrau, Red Lantern, Frank Tusso's, etc, etc.
One thing I do remember about the area their talking about building this track at was the terrible odor coming across from the refinery's from Bayonne.


46 posted on 01/02/2005 6:06:43 AM PST by Recon Dad
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To: Recon Dad

Nope, Harmon's on Forest Ave. Been there too many times in the last few years as the last generation of family passes on.

Didn't hang at any of those places.

Did used to go to the stock car races at Weissglas in Port Richmond quite often. Entered a demolition derby there once, what a hoot!

Oh, yeah, I remember the stink. There was a riding stable out near the Goethal's bridge we went to not long before I left the Island for good. I remember watching the expressway construction from there.


47 posted on 01/02/2005 6:19:38 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: MarkL
"If things don't work out, NASCAR will simply skip the track, but they won't be out any money."

NASCAR won't be out any money, but these Staten Island loons should ask the proprietors of the Chicago Motor Speedway project what happens when you build an ill-advised racetrack in a top-5 market.

48 posted on 01/02/2005 6:21:25 AM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Vermonter

There was an employee at Harmon's who still lives right near PS 45 who remembers everything and everybody from that area and time. His name is escaping me right now, but he was a Catholic school veteran and I'm sure you would have known him. He had a couple of older brothers if I remember correctly. We all used to hang out at the Carvel at Bard & Forest before we discovered bars.


49 posted on 01/02/2005 6:24:46 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: Recon Dad

oops, replied to myself in #49 instead of to you


50 posted on 01/02/2005 6:52:53 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: Cobra64; cyborg; arasina; durasell; nickcarraway; GVgirl; AngieGOP; Keith in Iowa; Vermonter; ...
Pfft!

Shows how much you know!

Staten Island seceded from New Jersey back in 1994, when the citizens there decided to hold a plebiscite on whether or not to declare themselves an independent republic.

I believe their current president is Mr. Guy V. Molinari.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

51 posted on 01/02/2005 6:54:29 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (I'm too damn lazy to think of a new tag-line; SO THERE!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Staten Island seceded from New Jersey back in 1994,

You left off the smiley face. Staten Island is, and has been a borough of NYC for the sixty years I've been alive and for a long time before that.

The talk of secession went nowhere. Don't know if Molinari is still in office, but Staten Island has always had a Borough President

52 posted on 01/02/2005 7:08:02 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: nickcarraway
.... the proposed ticketing system would let 8,400 cars, 950 buses and 250 RVs travel and park at the arena ....

What a joke. A NASCAR race is far more about the party than the so called racing (real race cars do not have restrictor plates or engines more old fashioned than comparable production vehicles). There are more than 250 RVs in the pits alone. Without a full infield, the place will die.

There is no way people can get to this Roller Derby in style, or will even attempt it more than once.

53 posted on 01/02/2005 7:11:06 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
I believe their current president is Mr. Guy V. Molinari.

Husband of RINO-turned-Dim, Susan, right? I met her once when she was standing on a street corner near Lincoln Center asking women for their votes because she had come out as a Pro-Choice Republican. I told her that's why she wouldn't be getting my vote. And if I remember correctly, Guy Molinari was a McCain supporter. Boo.

54 posted on 01/02/2005 7:11:42 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Servant of the 9

There is no way I would attempt to drive a full size (Class A) RV across any of the 3 bridges from New Jersey to Staten Island. The lanes on those bridges are almost too narrow for car traffic, let alone an RV. They're also under almost constant reconstruction.


55 posted on 01/02/2005 7:15:38 AM PST by Vermonter
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To: arasina
Yeah, he switched sides-much like Chuck Hagel-in the middle of the ball game.

I've always taken Guy to be a bit of an eccentric, as far as politics go.

The most notable accomplishment of his daughter, Susan-as far as I can tell-was being elected the minority "leader" of the New York City Council.

Of course, this title wasn't all that impressive, considering the fact that she was the only Republican member at the time.

56 posted on 01/02/2005 7:18:22 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (I'm too damn lazy to think of a new tag-line; SO THERE!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Daughter? Oh. My error. Whoops!

Get yer own danged tagline, Brohamie. Or do I need to think up one FOR you? :-)


57 posted on 01/02/2005 7:21:45 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Mo1
3 more weekends home alone PING

So9

58 posted on 01/02/2005 7:23:53 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Recon Dad

I lived on Victory Boulevard across from Siver Lake in the 60's.


59 posted on 01/02/2005 7:52:35 AM PST by monocle
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To: PokerGod
I see it on TV and to me it just looks like a bunch of cars racing around a track.

Uhh, how long did it take you to come to this conclusion? There's no foolin' you..right?

60 posted on 01/02/2005 7:58:12 AM PST by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
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