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To poke fun at Florida State University's bid for a chiropractic school, an FSU professor has created a new campus map. Opponents of the proposed school say more than 500 faculty members have signed petitions against it.

1 posted on 01/01/2005 7:13:21 AM PST by aculeus
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A Chiropractic School would be better next to the Law School.


2 posted on 01/01/2005 7:14:40 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Mrs. Slim bought all new faucets for the house.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Note the large building in lower right hand corner.


3 posted on 01/01/2005 7:16:57 AM PST by aculeus
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As a physician, I always thought little of the chiropractic. Then, about a dozen years ago, we rented a summer house from a couple--and she was a chiropractor. When we turned the house back to them, I asked her about my neck (that I could hardly tune enough to parallel park my car). She put me on the floor, cracked my neck and my life was changed.

As long as they don't try to treat allergies with spinal manipulations or advocate coffee enemas, they're fine with me.

4 posted on 01/01/2005 7:19:15 AM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: aculeus

But of course--when my hip & back get gimpy, my chiropractor fixes me right up with one $25 office visit and no drugs. I'm in & out in 15 minutes & that's allowing for time spent chewing the fat. Medical establishment can't have that.


5 posted on 01/01/2005 7:19:59 AM PST by elli1
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"Professors are even circulating a parody map of campus that places a fictional Bigfoot Institute, School of Astrology and Crop Circle Simulation Laboratory near a future chiropractic school. "

I love these guys! I have only marginal respect for SOME chiropractors.

6 posted on 01/01/2005 7:20:09 AM PST by elfman2
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To: aculeus
Hilarious map!

I'm all for tolerance toward goofy people and nutty beliefs, but the prof is right in trying to maintain SOME standards as an institute of higher learning.

9 posted on 01/01/2005 7:23:16 AM PST by beavus
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Chiropractice is an amazing scam, little more than a bunch of charlatans involved in organized crime with the unregulated US lawyer industry to endlessly scam workers comp, no-fault, phony slip and fall, and the rest of the festering toilet of the American litigation business.

I once toured a "Chiropractic College"... There was no library (or any need for one).

10 posted on 01/01/2005 7:23:52 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: aculeus

Chiropractic is the first and easiest step on the slippery-slope to homeopathy. Too bad the 'physician' in the article has forgotten the difference between anecdote and science and between 'feeling good' and medicine. By the standard illustrated in the article, we should all be feelin' gooood smokin' a doobie


14 posted on 01/01/2005 7:27:55 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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PUBLIC LAW 107-135   – JAN. 23, 2002 

Department of Veterans Affairs Health Care

Programs Enhancement Act of 2001  

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SEC. 204. PROGRAM FOR PROVISION OF CHIROPRACTIC CARE AND SERVICES TO VETERANS.

(a) REQUIREMENT FOR PROGRAM- Subject to the provisions of this section, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs shall carry out a program to provide chiropractic care and services to veterans through Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers and clinics.

(b) ELIGIBLE VETERANS- Veterans eligible to receive chiropractic care and services under the program are veterans who are enrolled in the system of patient enrollment under section 1705 of title 38, United States Code.

(c) LOCATION OF PROGRAM- The program shall be carried out at sites designated by the Secretary for purposes of the program. The Secretary shall designate at least one site for such program in each geographic service area of the Veterans Health Administration. The sites so designated shall be medical centers and clinics located in urban areas and in rural areas.

(d) CARE AND SERVICES AVAILABLE- The chiropractic care and services available under the program shall include a variety of chiropractic care and services for neuro-musculoskeletal conditions, including subluxation complex.

(e) OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS- (1) The Secretary shall carry out the program through personal service contracts and by appointment of licensed chiropractors in Department medical centers and clinics.

(2) As part of the program, the Secretary shall provide training and materials relating to chiropractic care and services to Department health care providers assigned to primary care teams for the purpose of familiarizing such providers with the benefits of chiropractic care and services.

(f) REGULATIONS- The Secretary shall prescribe regulations to carry out this section.

(g) CHIROPRACTIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE- (1) The Secretary shall establish an advisory committee to provide direct assistance and advice to the Secretary in the development and implementation of the chiropractic health program.

(2) The membership of the advisory committee shall include members of the chiropractic care profession and such other members as the Secretary considers appropriate.

(3) Matters on which the advisory committee shall assist and advise the Secretary shall include the following:

(A) Protocols governing referral to chiropractors.

(B) Protocols governing direct access to chiropractic care.

(C) Protocols governing scope of practice of chiropractic practitioners.

(D) Definition of services to be provided.

(E) Such other matters the Secretary determines to be appropriate.

(4) The advisory committee shall cease to exist on December 31, 2004.


18 posted on 01/01/2005 7:30:42 AM PST by Peelod (Perversion is not festive)
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To: aculeus

The is b***t! The American Medical Association recognizes chiropractic as legitimate. Chiropractors have the same basic medical education as all doctors do. I go to a chiropractor on a regular basis. Have much less pain, and more mobility and don't have to take those expensive dangerous drugs which doctors love to prescribe!


22 posted on 01/01/2005 7:35:05 AM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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I've had nothing but excellent, professional care from my Chiropractor, though I don't doubt that there are bad chiros out there, just like there are bad doctors and bad lawyers and bad paper boys.

With bad lower back problems (genetic deformity, not disc-related, plus aggravated by years of grinding Army life) my chiro has been a lifesaver for me. When my back goes out I am down for the count.

I love being able to walk. Makes life a whole lot easier for me!


24 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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"It should come as no surprise that no major medical institution in this country, public or private, has embraced chiropractic medicine," wrote Dr. Henry Ho,..... which IMHO is short sighted and un-productive. It probably has denied a lot of people relief that a chiropractor could bring. There is a branch of medicine, I believe that borders on chiropractic...they are D.O.'s that have all the priveleges and responsibilities of M.D.'s, but also know manipulation.

What would be useful would be(and I believe ther are beginning to be some) a clinic staffed with good M.D.'s, Chiropractors, nutritionists, and other "healers"..

Dang, now I have stepped in it....healers=witch doctors and shamans....well maybe if the M.D.'s have found no physical or medical problems?....

What say you all?

25 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:47 AM PST by B.O. Plenty
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To: aculeus
The threatened resignations - at least seven to date, all from assistant professors who work part time - reflect a belief among many in the medical establishment that chiropractic is a "pseudo-science" that leads to unnecessary and sometimes harmful treatments.

Yet the university probably has a psychology college and a womens studies department.

26 posted on 01/01/2005 7:37:47 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: CholeraJoe

Nutjob ping.


27 posted on 01/01/2005 7:38:15 AM PST by secret garden (Gig'em Aggies!)
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To: dighton; general_re; Pharmboy
The School of UFO Abduction Studies will be dedicated to this late Harvard professor.
28 posted on 01/01/2005 7:38:34 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Forgot to say this map is funny!


30 posted on 01/01/2005 7:39:07 AM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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I'll probably get flamed for this, but I have a pretty low opinion of Chiropractors. I have never used one myself, but those who have (that I know of) always come away worse or dependent. My father's back was ruined by a quack Chiropractor during his first visit. He had to be taken away in an ambulance and spent years in pain. When Dad sued, he found out this guy (who was recommended!) already had a number of lawsuits pending.

My Brother-in-law's case is probably more routine. He has been going to a Chiropractor for the last 10 years and is hopelessly dependent on his services. Every time I visit my Sister, he will often leave abruptly for the Dr. to get an adjustment. In a given week (my usual stay), he goes at least twice. A couple of times he has become incapacitated and work and my Sister has to pick him up and drive him to the Chiropractor. My Sister has complained on many occasions about the situation (especially the bills), but Mike insists this guy is the only one who can relieve his pain--he refuses to see a regular doctor (largely due to his Chiropractor's propaganda). According to my Sister, his back condition has gone from mild to very bad over the years. I know of several other people in a situation similar to Mike's.

I think what happens is that these guys know how to provide short term relief, but their techniques make the underlying problem worse. As a result, their patients become hopelessly dependent on them--like drug addicts. Medical doctors, for all their faults, do try to cure patients (excluding psychiatrists). I think many Chiropractors only have interest in getting repeat business.

I know a lot of you will disagree with me, but thats what I think. Let the flames begin...
31 posted on 01/01/2005 7:39:28 AM PST by rbg81
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To: aculeus
I chuckle when these professional back-snappers call themselves doctors.
34 posted on 01/01/2005 7:41:20 AM PST by boycott
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To: aculeus

Not all chiropractors are bad... some people don't like their $$$$$ being taken away.


35 posted on 01/01/2005 7:43:14 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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I knew 2 chiropractors. They were BOTH egotistical and obnoxious..and think they were like Gods.....I think it's because they think they were real Doctors and better than the rest of us.
I went ONCE to a chiropractor. It hurt. I never will go back.
41 posted on 01/01/2005 7:45:31 AM PST by benice
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