[Southack]

"OTOH, thanks for keeping this thread bumped, so that many hundreds of more hardworking, by-the-rules, ticked-off middle class Americans will read it."

The thread would be more persuasive if it had more advocates for solutions rather than it has hype and scare-mongering.

To get control of our borders, we've got to be smarter than mere brute force. Hyperbole about "enforcing our existing laws" simply won't cut it. 8 million (or more) illegals is/are simple too large in scope for brute force tactics to work, even if the *political* climate would allow such heavy-handedness (e.g. more deportation trains than Germany ran in WW2, etc.). There is simply no question but that this is a very, very large problem.

So for me, the most clever solution that I've seen is to convince illegals to voluntarily register themselves with our government. Take away that whole *anonymous* angle that protects them (and moreover, protects their employers). While anonymous fugitives take a great deal of resources to track down, registered ones (especially when we know the employer) are a different matter altogether...registered employers are certainly less of a manpower resource hog to track down.

Without question, that's what the gun-banners would try to do to all of us gun owners if they ever got the chance. They'd register all of us in a heartbeat if they could, and we all know why.

Well, get the illegals registered and you've siezed that same sort of power. Now the illegal immigration problem becomes more manageable. Now employers of illegals are no longer protected by their anonymity. Now the scope of the problem is reduced to something reasonable.

So lets be smart and act smart and get control of our borders back. Convince illegals to register themselves; get rid of their anonymity.

[Torie]

The solutions have been posted. The only issue is how to sell Bush on something that congeals the "base" or at least keeps it from fraying. Maybe you can help with that. The balance of the issue has been "solved." :)

[Joe Hadenuf]

Strange how the folks from Texas and the south seem to be the biggest illegal alien apologist and sympathizers on the Free Republic. You always show up on these threads, like Texasforever, Bayorod, etc and several others. A glaring, clear pattern.

[Fatalis]

The thread would be more persuasive if it had more advocates for solutions rather than it has hype and scare-mongering.

To get control of our borders, we've got to be smarter than mere brute force.

Well, heal yourself. There have been solutions presented on this thread that don't require brute force or amnesty. It's scaremongering to imply otherwise.

[Travis McGee]

Thanks for keeping the thread bumped. 95% of new viewers will only read the first 50 replies (at most) so it's very important that you keep tossing the ball back to me in the high reply area that only we will ever read.

Seriously, I just have to smile when "conservatives" talk about how we just have to ignore the rule of law for millions of CRIMINALS, when it has been our leaders and not our voters who have opened the doors for the invasion.

Which laws can WE ignore, with impunity? Tax laws? Gun laws?

And please, don't ask for forgiveness when this nation explodes into three way ethnic strife during our lifetime, as we bequeath a Bosnia-style bloody struggle to our children.

I will NOT forgive the open borders lobby traitors for this grave sin.

[shellshocked]

"Hyperbole about "enforcing our existing laws" simply won't cut it."

You mean the instant a federal task force swoops down and confiscates the local McDonalds, jails the owners and managers, and fines them millions of dollars, that all the other employers of illegals won't dump their illegals?

You mean the banks who financed the place who just lost their ass won't make demands of their other borrowers to dump the ilelgals?