[Southack]

"All of that can be discovered without legalizing any illegal aliens through David Dreier's HR 5111, which would make the current workplace verification program mandatory."

That's fantasyland talk. Illegals and their employers aren't going to submit to a mandatory workplace verification program anymore than they comply with the existing voluntary one.

On the other hand, plea bargains have worked for decades. You give a little; you take a little.

With the right incentive, illegals *will* register. The carrot will win what the stick will not. Mandatory workplace registrations won't work. Voluntary registrations will work. Choose one.

[txdoda]

The carrot will win what the stick will not.

So should we offer up a *carrot* to all tax evaders (criminals), or just the illegal ones & their employers ???

Funny gov't always seems to think the *stick* works better for citizen criminals (tax evaders, etc.)

Mandatory workplace registrations won't work.

Gov't didn't seem to have any trouble SHOVING mandatory mental health checks for our kids down OUR throats.

[Fatalis]

Illegals and their employers aren't going to submit to a mandatory workplace verification program anymore than they comply with the existing voluntary one.

Then what would stop the employers of illegals now from employing cheaper new illegals when the current crop gets legzlized?

With the right incentive, illegals *will* register. The carrot will win what the stick will not. Mandatory workplace registrations won't work. Voluntary registrations will work. Choose one.

If HR 5111 passes and an employer is found not to have complied with mandatory verification, he's subject to fines of $50,000 per illegal employed and five years in prison. How many employers do you think would ignore that law, after a few convictions?