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6) The REAL issue here, though, is that people are committing crimes by crossing the border illegally and for WHATEVER reason they do so, they are criminals and must be treated as such. We only allow "mitigating circumstances" so much room for mercy in other crimes, and so it should be here

Yeah but would a jury convict a criminal whose crime is to take a job cleaning toilets or pick vegetables.

Yeah but would a jury convict a criminal whose crime is to take a job cleaning toilets or pick vegetables.

You are on psychedelic drugs to thusly characterize the work that illegal aliens do. They are in many sectors of construction. We have a home building boom partly to accomate all these new legal/illegal immigrants. They are working all over the hotel industry.

BTW: Many legal immigrants are picking vegetables and cleaning toilets.

I may show my behind in this reply and I've sat here for several minutes thinking about just passing over a reply...I can't. I have to speak up.

As far as I am concerned, US citizens not willing to take those jobs and more willing to take the welfare is what's wrong. Not every person is going to have the ability to be or live like Donald Trump etc.

I've worked three stinking jobs to pay my bills, rent, and put food on the table. I can tell you about the first time I bought my own stainless steel flatware and thinking about how many hours I had to work to be able to afford it. I can tell you how live off of $20.00 per week and not go hungry. I know hard times. What I can't tell you is how to apply for welfare or unemployment. I don't know how and never have. I have always been able to find work. ALWAYS. It may not have been the most glamorous stuff, but it was work. I have not contributed to the unemployment number...there are jobs out there to be had and any job that goes unfilled 'cause an american won't do the job cause it's beneath them, too low paying, etc. is not displaying the work ethics that has made this country strong.

Illegal aliens need to be stopped from crossing the border, but if they are willing to work and contribute taxes, and add value to our country...let's help them do that 'cause there are some in our country who would rather have the handout. If they've got the work ethic and desire to be American Citizens then let's put Lady Liberty at the southern border.

Yeah but would a jury convict a criminal whose crime is to take a job cleaning toilets or pick vegetables.<<

Well, and there's another thing: Illegals should not have the right to a trial by jury - illegals do not have the same rights as citizens (or should not, anyway).

BTW,the GOP is dropping the ball for sure, but Democrats are the bleeding hearts that caused this mess in the first place.

I say We the People are allowing our rights to be denied by not standing up for them. We allow our tax dollars to be spent supporting illegals and educating illegals. We foolishly depend on the court system and our representatives who seem to have their own agenda).
So far, Our government is not doing the will of the people who elected them, so we must take a stand that proves we are Not Kidding, and it should be perhaps a bit drastic. The Boston Tea Party comes to mind. It would take great organization, but why should we continue to be taxed and pay for the take-over of our country? Thousands of people refusing to pay for the welfare of illegals would be quite an impact. But that's just a dream. We are all Jellyfish.

"Yeah but would a jury convict a criminal whose crime is to take a job cleaning toilets or pick vegetables."

You're trying to change the subject. The criminal act is not the taking of a job. The criminal act is the gross violation of America's sovereign border. Did PersonX cross the border illegally? Yes. Punishment? Jail/deportation/whatever. End of story; case closed.

The only thing defenders of illegal aliens can do in support of their friends is to throw up a smokescreen in a futile attempt to confuse the issue. The issue is now, and always has been, the security of America's borders. The economic damage and other problems associated with illegal immigration (crime increases, poverty increases, drained social services, overworked and underfunded hospitals, and terrorists sneaking across the border) are all merely symptoms of the larger problem. Everything thrown up in terms of 'human rights', 'racial profiling', 'racism', etc is all a mere smokescreen to get us off the issue of the fact that we have criminals pouring across our borders creating a massive security situation for a nation always under threat.