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To: RS; Gondring
Why would you refer to yourself as a heathen?

Did I in any way imply that someone who believes differently than me is a heathen?

I certainly did not.

The translations I used were actually sent to me about a month ago by a fellow FReeper.

I guess that is one of the difficulties in dealing with this subject. If there isn't any one true translation that everyone agrees with, it does make it difficult to find the Truth. That is what I am after here. Nothing more.

I am not here to point fingers or make false accusations. If you have evidence that Islam is not wanting to dominate the world or that their intent is not to wipe out all infidels, then I would welcome that evidence.

I would appreciate a civil discourse rather than the name calling and mudslinging that seems so rampant here.

I don't think anything is achieved by using those methods.
831 posted on 01/04/2005 1:10:24 PM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: jan in Colorado
"Why would you refer to yourself as a heathen?"

No reflection on anything you said - I was just heading off those who would jump in calling me an Islamoappologizer or some such thing.


"If there isn't any one true translation that everyone agrees with, it does make it difficult to find the Truth. That is what I am after here."

You found it - the "Truth" of what is says is whatever the reader wants it to be.

I don't know anything about the "truth" of the site I linked - it just popped up using google, but the Islamo-phobics here seem to prefer the same translations that the Fanatic Imans do.


"If you have evidence that Islam is not wanting to dominate the world or that their intent is not to wipe out all infidels, then I would welcome that evidence."

If Islam is defined by fanatics like UBL, then they DO want to kill or convert everyone - kind of like the Crusades. I guess you could say at that time the Christians wanted to kill or convert everyone also. Maybe it's some sort of "phase" that religions have to grow out of - they are still stuck in the 1400's.


What we need to do is kill the ones that interpret it into killing us, and ignore the ones that interpret it as ignoring us.

Anyone who truely believe that Islam wants to kill everyone else and won't stop until we are all dead, would be in favor of simply marching them all into the gas chambers, unless someone has a better idea.

Leviticus 26:8 Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the sword before you.

By some interpretations this could be us in Iraq, so I guess we have Gods OK to kill them all...
832 posted on 01/04/2005 2:06:06 PM PST by RS
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To: jan in Colorado
I would appreciate a civil discourse rather than the name calling and mudslinging that seems so rampant here.

And as I understand it, you are not implying that RS's reply or my posting was name calling or mudslinging, you're just commenting in general, right?

833 posted on 01/04/2005 2:24:30 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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