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Tsunami Could Hit Here, Geologists Say
The New York Sun ^ | 12/29/04 | JEREMY SMERD

Posted on 12/30/2004 9:02:59 AM PST by M 91 u2 K

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To: Northern Yankee

You could not evacuate, but you don't need to. You can move tens of thousands of people to higher ground- get away from the shore and several stories high and you'd have a much better chance than down by the docks, in a subway, or just on the street. Lower floors would take damage, mostly broken glass, but it would take a much bigger wave than 30 feet to knock down a steel-framed building.

We used to have a Civil Defense program with coordinators and shelters and volunteers and training and supplies, for nuclear war, but it was also useful for natural disasters like tsunamis, floods, and the like. We gave it up long ago (a treaty with the Soviets I think).

If you had 5,000 CD trained people, and each coralled a thousand people into safer zones, that's lots of people off the street. Perfect, no, but would it have saved lots of lives in India? You bet.


41 posted on 12/30/2004 9:23:41 AM PST by DBrow
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To: M 91 u2 K

Given how much more tectonically active the Pacific is, I'd think we ought to make sure the west coast is protected first... but maybe it already is.


42 posted on 12/30/2004 9:24:08 AM PST by Sloth (Al Franken is a racist.)
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To: stuartcr
"Mistaken waves?"

I don't understand what you are getting at.
Is it the fact that they are called Tidal Waves in N. America?
To me it doesn't make a difference. It is like Typhoon and Hurricane.
43 posted on 12/30/2004 9:27:02 AM PST by t-1000 (Hecho...Lava Sus Manos?)
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To: Ditter
The difference in the Gulf is that as the tsunami came from water thousands of feet deep and crawled up on the Continental Shelf, it's height would grow dramatically.

You'd see that sucker for a long time before it hit!

44 posted on 12/30/2004 9:27:04 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: M 91 u2 K

We could also be hit by a meteor.


45 posted on 12/30/2004 9:27:32 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
The Great Lakes can have their own little Tsunami, they are called Seich's ? I saw one many years ago on lake michigan wash fishermen off of a breakwater.

"Strong winds frequently produce seiches on large lakes, but most are rather small in size — less than 30 cm (a foot) high — and go unnoticed amidst the general surface wave motions. However, during severe storm conditions, water-level differences greater than 5 metres (16 feet) have been observed between opposing lakeshores. Large seiches (i.e, greater than one metre (3 ft)) occur in the Great Lakes basin every year, usually from May to September. The Great Lake most affected by seiches is Lake Erie because it is the shallowest and its basin is often aligned with storm wind directions. One passing storm set up a seiche in 1979 that resulted in a water-level difference of 4.3 metres (14 feet) between Toledo and Buffalo." source

PS- Spent plenty o' time seichin' on Lake Michigan as a yute.

46 posted on 12/30/2004 9:28:53 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Ditter
The Chixsulub(sp?) impact set up a tsunami that left debris tens of miles inland in what's now Texas and Louisiana.

The Chesapeake impact likewise sent stuff way inland.

Any big enough meteor will make a powerful wave if it hits water.

The Barringer impactor was only 100 yards in diameter, and left a hole a mile wide. Had it hit water it would have made a huge wave also.

But impacts are rarer than big earthquakes by a few orders of magnitude.
47 posted on 12/30/2004 9:29:20 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Peach

Natural and man-made "ocean-breaks" muffle the effects of these kinds of oceanic disturbances. Cities on deeper coastal shelfs that lack these kinds of breakers are hence more at risk. Anyone know off-hand which these are? Florida seems to come to mind....


48 posted on 12/30/2004 9:29:51 AM PST by Paul Ross (1 month to go before Iran has nukes, courtesy AG Khan, North Korea and Red China.)
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To: stuartcr

I am stationed right here in Norfolk. As congested as this area is, we would be in a traffic jam on I-64 just before we are swept away.


49 posted on 12/30/2004 9:30:45 AM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: t-1000
...cause a tsunami with erroneous waves.

A'hem You meant to say perhaps, enormous waves?

50 posted on 12/30/2004 9:31:23 AM PST by Paul Ross (1 month to go before Iran has nukes, courtesy AG Khan, North Korea and Red China.)
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To: t-1000

My mistake, you must have meant 'erroneous', as in wandering...I usually define it as 'mistaken'.


51 posted on 12/30/2004 9:31:42 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Dog Gone; HoustonCurmudgeon
There's always been a lot of drilling rigs operating in Indonesian waters.

Have you heard any damage reports from those?

52 posted on 12/30/2004 9:31:50 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: AmericanChef
With regard to an massive meteor.
The Tidal Wave would probably be the least of our worries.

If the meteor was a few miles long it probably would not only create giant Tidal Waves, but a blast that would be kin to setting off all the nuclear weapons in the world a million times over.
We would be DOOMED.
53 posted on 12/30/2004 9:32:41 AM PST by t-1000 (Hecho...Lava Sus Manos?)
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To: M 91 u2 K

My solution is to permanently "station" (ok, intern if you will) all of the damn geologists (coincidently putting in their two cents worth right now) on the major coastlines of America.....put their A$$es on the line and they might sing a different tune.

Mother Nature is Mother Nature --she's not liberal or conservative and doesn't give a damn --things get sorted out in the end.


54 posted on 12/30/2004 9:33:25 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Paul Ross

Thanks.

Bad spell check selection


55 posted on 12/30/2004 9:33:33 AM PST by t-1000 (Hecho...Lava Sus Manos?)
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To: stuartcr

My bad.


56 posted on 12/30/2004 9:34:28 AM PST by t-1000 (Hecho...Lava Sus Manos?)
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To: AmericanChef

One problem is there seems to be an obsession with this exceedingly unlikely but really dramatic things; Yellowstone Caldera, La Palma collapsing, etc....

And things that are not only likely, but PROBABLE in the next few decades...a magnitude 7-7.5 earthquake on the Hayward Fault in Oakland and Berkeley, or in Salt Lake City...or in any of a number of other places...that would kill 5,000+, cost hundreds of billions of dollars, and make 9/11 look like a joke...are basically ignored.


57 posted on 12/30/2004 9:34:28 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: bethelgrad

Got that right, I'd be lucky to even get off base.


58 posted on 12/30/2004 9:34:31 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Gaffer
My solution is to permanently "station" (ok, intern if you will) all of the damn geologists (coincidently putting in their two cents worth right now) on the major coastlines of America.....put their A$$es on the line and they might sing a different tune.

Geologist steal your girlfriend or something?

59 posted on 12/30/2004 9:36:10 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: TexasCowboy

I haven't heard anything about the rigs. My inclination is to think that they're okay since these tsunamis seem to become destructive only at the shoreline.


60 posted on 12/30/2004 9:36:30 AM PST by Dog Gone
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