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1 posted on 12/29/2004 1:15:12 PM PST by Stoat
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The only time the words "Includes hot babe pics!" and "Article about Susan Sontag" can go together. Unless we're talking Susan's home decorating habits.


2 posted on 12/29/2004 1:17:48 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: Stoat

Michelle is a cutey.


3 posted on 12/29/2004 1:21:02 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Pray for the millions of lives disrupted by tsunami.)
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I wonder how many of Reggie White's obits mention his comments about gays. I just heard someone on the radio claim that Reggie's gay comments should be included. Since he was from the NYT, I wonder if he feels the same way about Susan.


4 posted on 12/29/2004 1:22:16 PM PST by KJacob (Faith is not believing God can. It is knowing God will.)
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Thanks. I listened to a piece on NPR about her and you would think that we had lost the greatest intellectual of the last 100 years.

Now I see that she was just another America-hating, racist Socialist.


5 posted on 12/29/2004 1:23:16 PM PST by MaineRepublic (Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides)
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Ping-a-licious Michelle alert


6 posted on 12/29/2004 1:27:10 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (We shall overcome)
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I have to say that I haven't paid much attention to Susan Sontag's "ideas," so I didn't know until reading this that she was a socialist dimlib. So this is enlightening; thanks for the post.

Also thanks for the pics of a lovely conservative lady. Michelle Malkin's ideas are worthy of sincere praise.


7 posted on 12/29/2004 1:32:55 PM PST by Marauder ("I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.")
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The irony is that she died of cancer. I guess the "white race" got her in the end :)


8 posted on 12/29/2004 1:34:42 PM PST by Truthsayer20
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Only the hate-America crowd feels any loss. I won't say anymore, as I'd just get into trouble with the AMs.


12 posted on 12/29/2004 1:40:46 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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How to write a Sontag obituary:

1) Eat a big plate of spicy beans

2) Start tape recorder.

3) Transcribe the results....

13 posted on 12/29/2004 1:41:46 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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Obituaries usually mention who the deceased is survived by. With Susan Sontag, no one is mentioned. I guess she was a lesbian.


15 posted on 12/29/2004 1:47:01 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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Michelle Malkin ~ Bump!


17 posted on 12/29/2004 1:49:29 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Stoat

Does anyone remember the amazing obituary William Buckley wrote when Bella Abzug died? It was something like: She was a horrible person and will not be missed. Maybe someone from National Review will do a similar one for Sontag.


29 posted on 12/29/2004 4:44:58 PM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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I love the Tom Wolfe quote:

..Mrs. Sontag is "just another scribbler who spent her life signing up for protest meetings and lumbering to the podium encumbered by her prose style, which had a handicapped parking sticker valid at Partisan Review."

I never thought Sontag was handicapped, I always assumed she was a German who learned english as a second language.

30 posted on 12/29/2004 5:26:08 PM PST by rcocean
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bttt


36 posted on 12/29/2004 5:40:13 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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This writer notes, without remorse, the passing of Susan Sontag.


41 posted on 12/29/2004 7:25:35 PM PST by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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Here's my obit for Sontag:

B*tch dies. Services at 11:00am, Thursday.

45 posted on 12/29/2004 8:39:00 PM PST by wizardoz
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I was one of the first people on this forum to point out the "White race is a cancer" quote (with citation). However, give her her props. She did say sometime around 1986, that if we ask the question [I paraphrase], "Which person would have a more accurate appreciation of the Soviet Union, someone whose view was shaped soley by reading 'The New York Review of Books' or 'Reader's Digest'.", the answer would not be flattering to intellectuals.

When I saw this, I knew the Cold War was over and we had won. [Actually, I said to some liberal colleagues in 1986 that if Time Magazine were freely available in Moscow, the Soviet Union would collapse in five years. Gorbachev should have listened to me, or at least to the old appartchiks who knew as well as I did. I think the libs are still scratching their heads saying "Wot happund?".]

51 posted on 12/30/2004 4:57:16 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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HOW TO WRITE A SUSAN SONTAG OBITUARY???

Susan Sontag died on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 in New York. What is the legacy of the “obsessed moralist”, “besotted aesthete”, and “zealot of seriousness”? None of her many novels ever found much success with the public. They were exercises in narcissistic vanity more than literary works of art. Sontag was at best a dilettante and a wannabe.

It was as an activist for “humanitarian interventionism” and “military humanism” that she found her niche. She was at the forefront of the racist ant-Serbian demonization policy. This is where she found her lasting legacy. It was this absurd and anachronistic and atavistic spasm of race hate against the Serbian people where she excelled. She did not originate this anti-Serbian policy but became its outspoken champion and mouthpiece and cheerleader with her posturing and posing. It was an exercise in absurdity. Susan Sontag created a Theater of the Absurd in the Balkans.

Anti-Semitism in the 1930s, Anti-Serbianism in the 1990s Sontag was at the forefront of the dehumanization and demonization of the Serbian people. It was an atavistic spasm of Hitlerian racism and ethnic hatred. She was the major proponent of the Alija Izetbegovic ultra-nationalist Islamic regime in Bosnia. She made Sarajevo a global stage for her absurdist viewpoint. Sarajevo was the stage, the Balkans was the Theater, and she was the director of the tragicomedy.

Sontag was the main cheerleader of the illegal NATO bombing of Belgrade, Novi Sad, and Pristina in 1999. Like the obsession of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis with anti-Semitism in the 1930s, she was obsessed with an identical anti-Serbianism, which was racist and genocidal. Just as Adolf Hitler saw the root of all evil in the world in the Jews, Sontag saw the Serbian people as the source of the conflicts in the former Yugoslavia. Like Hitler’s obsession with the Jews and anti-Semitism, Sontag suffered from a sociopathic and psychopathic obsession with anti-Serbianism. She was ignorant but it was a willful ignorance, a purposeful ignorance. She saw only what she wanted to see. This is the most baneful and woeful ignorance.

The most blatant example of her anti-Serbian racism is found in her snide comment that the Serbs are not part of Europe in The New York Times Magazine justifying the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999. She talked about how the French were a part of Europe. And then, when referring to the Serbs, wrote: “And ‘they’ are not.” This was over the top bigotry. Of course, Hitler made the similar argument about Jews. Jews were a Semitic, Asian peoples that were not a part of Europe, were not indigenous to Europe. Therefore, Jews should be exterminated. It is absurd that Sontag parrots Adolf Hitler. But Sontag’s entire life is an absurdity.

She was a narrow-minded and ignorant racist but masqueraded as a “humanitarian interventionist”. She advocated the illegal bombing of schools, bridges, nursing homes, residential districts in Serbia, all war crimes and acts of genocide. But she maintained that she opposed genocide. She lived an absurd life. She was illogical, irrational, deluded. She was as racist as Adolf Hitler or Ariel Sharon. And yet she deluded herself into thinking she was a humanist. Her thinking was irrational and sociopathic, absurd.

Nothing better illustrates the absurdity of her whole life than her staging of Samuel Beckett’s absurdist play Waiting for Godot in Sarajevo.

Waiting for Godot, a tragicomedy, is an existentialist and absurdist two act play about the meaninglessness and boredom and tedium of modern life. But primarily it is about the absurdity of life. It is about the absurdity of the intellectual and intellectualism. In the final act, Vladimir and Estragon are engaged in the following colloquy:

Vladimir: Well, shall we go? Estragon: Yes, let’s go. They do not move.

The play symbolizes the sterility, nihilism, and bankruptcy of 20th century thought and intellectualism. The 1960s rock musical “Hair” would also be staged in Sarajevo. This was a propaganda ploy to demonstrate how Westernized and Americanized the Bosnian Muslims were, to prove to us ignoramuses just how secular and progressive and hip they really were. Never mind that “Hair” is passé and laughable and an archaic joke in the 1990s. Does anyone want to engineer a Cowsills revival? Maybe bell bottoms will come back in style someday? What do we know? For Sontag, what is “in” is what she says is “in”. Mozart’s Requiem would be played in Sarajevo to show that the Bosnian Muslims were part of the Western world. It was another absurdist propaganda stunt. Sontag also liked nothing better than to play with our minds.

Nothing better exemplifies this absurdity than the notion of “military humanism”, of bombing cities like Belgrade, Novi Sad and Pristina to achieve humanitarianism. There is nothing more absurd than taking sides in a civil war where each side is merely protecting their interests. She was a powerful advocate of the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 because she did not believe borders mattered any more. Sovereignty was archaic. Of course, this is hypocritical and disingenuous. What she meant was that Serbian borders don’t matter and are irrelevant, not all borders.

Sontag argued that some wars were just: “There is such a thing as a just war.” She argued that US military intervention on the side of the Bosnian Muslim faction was an instance of a “just war.” She wrote that the so-called Kosovo War was a “just war” to prevent “genocide.” But there never was any genocide in either Bosnia or Kosovo.

Sontag never retracted her erroneous statements. This is because she did not care about the truth or reality. Susan Sontag made her own reality. She was an intellectual, she was part of the elite and part of reality she made. She exhibited all the psychopathologies of the intellectual elites. First, she exhibited an intellectual moral certainty that mere mortals never do but the intellectuals are dead certain in that sociopathic way. Secondly, intellectuals elevate the illogical and irrational to the absurd because they deal with abstraction and a pseudo-reality, a fantasy world of illusion and delusion than borders on megalomania. The intellectual is detached from reality. Sontag is the intellectual.

1930s Redux

The intellectual manufactures a delusion structure for reality and Susan Sontag created, a delusional fantasy world. Just like Hitler saw Jews in stereotypical terms, she saw Serbs as caricatures manufactured by neo-Ustasha propagandists.

Sontag was a throwback to the 1930s when racism was in vogue. It was a simpler time where it was easy to divide the world between good and evil, between good people and bad people. It was a time when Jews could be portrayed as evil monsters bent on enslaving humanity and controlling the world. The world was so simple. US; Good. Them: Bad. Sontag resorts to this type of Us versus Them enmity and racism. She refers to the Serbian people as “they” or THEM. It is a simple conflict of Us against Them. In the 1930s, it was the Jews who were evil. In the 1990s, it was the Serbs. Just change the names, everything else is the name. Just fill in the blanks.

Can you really divide the world morally in this oversimplified way? Sontag was convinced that you could. Adolf Hitler was convinced that you could also.

Sontag, in a perverse way, was seeking a return to this less complex period. It was a 1930s redux for her. Of course, the Clinton government was sponsoring this kind of post-Cold War racist atavism. But Sontag, Anthony Lewis, Bill Kristol, Fuad Ajami were all on board. You couldn’t have racist attacks against politically correct targets who were well organized and financed like Jews and blacks, but the Serbs were fair game. Anything goes with respect to them. Sontag was instrumental in driving a wedge between Serbs and Jews, who had no history of animosity before. Along with Abe Foxman, Bill Kristol, Tom Lantos, and Anthony Lewis, she created a rift between Serbs and Jews and poisoned and soured relations between the two groups. Sontag’s Hitlerian racism and bigotry troubled many. Is this all she learned from the Holocaust? Did she learn to mimic and parrot Hitler? Is this what she learned?

Absurd Hypocrite

The central absurdity of her life is that she was a militant advocate for the Bosnian Muslims but never lifted a finger to help the Palestinian Muslims. This could perhaps be explained by her statement that she was a Jew first, a writer second, and an American third.

Sontag never took any interest in the real genocide in Rwanda where up to a million people were killed. Why? Because the victims were black. As Sontag herself noted, the Albanian Muslim refugees should be supported because they were people “who look like us”, that is, are white like her. She waged a campaign to get NATO and European states to go to war with the Serbian people. She was bitter that the European countries did not take sides in the Yugoslav civil wars. She wrote: “The Europe that let Bosnia die.” She saw herself as the midwife of Bosnian independence.

Why this obsession with the Muslims of Bosnia? They had business suits and drove Mercedes-Benzes. Butros Butros Ghali said Bosnia was “a rich man’s war,” Why didn’t Sontag help the Muslims in occupied Gaza and the West Bank? Why didn’t she show the same fanaticism and militancy and commitment towards establishing a Palestinian Miuslim state? Why the hypocrisy and double-standard?

Her true talent lay in this kind of racist fiction. She would have made a top-notch propagandist and indeed this was where she was most effective, as a propagandist for the New World Order.

Literary Legacy

She was born as Susan Rosenblatt in 1933 in New York. He father was a fur trader who died when she was five. Her mother was an alcoholic. Sontag attended the University of Chicago where she married historian Philip Rieff. She was a literary dilettante, critic, playwright, essayist, film critic, film maker, activist, and failed novelist. She was competent in many different fields but really exceptional at none. No one will remember Sontag as a writer. She was a hack. No one remembers or reads her books “Death Kit”, “Benefactor”, “In America”, “The Volcano Lover”. She also wrote an unsuccessful play called “Alice in Bed”. Gore Vidal noted her self-delusional and narcissistic vanity when he wrote in a review of “Death Kit” in 1967: “Miss Sontag’s intelligence is still greater than her talent.” She won the National Book Award for “In America”, but it was really based on her connections with the board. The book flopped in sales and was never popular. She was accused of plagiarism for not crediting her sources which she borrowed from liberally. The award did not improve her literary standing, it just buttressed her vanity. None of her books ever sold. She never achieved popular or critical acclaim for her literary works. It was only as a dilettantish “essayist” and roving intellectual that she gained notoriety. And it was only as a humanitarian interventionist that she achieved any wide-spread influence and success. She was at best a minor writer and so she will not be remembered for her literary output which was mostly self-indulgent and narcissistic in nature.

Absurd to the End

Sontag continued with her absurdist take on reality. In 2001, she wrote an article in The New Yorker in which she argued that Ossama Bin Laden’s 9/11 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center was based on a US foreign policy that was hostile to Muslims: ”Where is the acknowledgment that this was not a ‘cowardly’ attack on ‘civilization’ or ‘liberty’ or ‘humanity’ or ‘the free world’ but an attack …undertaken as a consequence of specific American alliances and actions?” She also argued that the 9/11 hijackers and the Al-Qaeda planners of the terrorist attack were not cowards: “They were not cowards.” This is a trite truism. Do we need an intellectual to tell us this? But it is another instance of Sontag’s delusional vanity. She was telling us, the unenlightened and ignorant, what we didn’t already know. She continued to be contrary just so she could stand out from the crowd, the herd and an intellecuat mob that she so despised but was part of. It was contrariness that was rooted in absurdity. She continued her Theater of the Absurd until the end. She personifies the age when one could use words to prove that black is white and white is black. Sontag was the perfectionist at this fiction of reality.

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62 posted on 12/30/2004 7:59:18 AM PST by dj_animal_2000
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Check out this passage from the Times' obit of Susan Sontag:

"Through four decades, public response to Ms. Sontag remained irreconcilably divided. She was described, variously, as explosive, anticlimactic, original, derivative, naïve, sophisticated, approachable, aloof, condescending, populist, puritanical, sybaritic, sincere, posturing, ascetic, voluptuary, right-wing, left-wing, profound, superficial, ardent, bloodless, dogmatic, ambivalent, lucid, inscrutable, visceral, reasoned, chilly, effusive, relevant, passé, ambivalent, tenacious, ecstatic, melancholic, humorous, humorless, deadpan, rhapsodic, cantankerous and clever. No one ever called her dull."

In fact, a 2000 piece in London's Guardian observed: "You read Sontag's early work, and it lies flat and lifeless on the page," which would seem to refute the claim that "no one ever called her dull."

-- BEST OF THE WEB TODAY, December 29, 2004


64 posted on 12/30/2004 5:46:50 PM PST by OESY
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I do love an old story about how Susan Sontag got skewered once... I can't recall where it was in Asia (China? Vietnam?), but The Sanctimonious Sontag was guided through an unpleasant, smoky factory. As Sontag and her guides came past a lathe operated by a young woman, Sontag couldn't stop herself. She had her translator ask the young woman how she could stand to work in such sub-standard conditions (translation: you're an oppressed woman).

The young lady shot retorted that she loved her job...it beat the h-ll out
of working in the rice fields like her mother and grandmother.
68 posted on 12/30/2004 9:56:11 PM PST by VOA
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