Russia says 'nyet' to Ukraine election results

csmonitor.com ^ | December 29, 2004 | Tom Regan

[hflynn]

Sounds like a repeat of what happened in the USA.

[Lukasz]

ping!

[smith288]

I should know but I havent been following...who is the good guy and bad guy in this election mess?

[Atlantic Friend]

Goodness, Lukasz, Uncle Vlad is really tearing a page out of Stalin's book. "We do not recognize the Polish government in exile in London, our objective analysis is that the Lublin Committee should take all relevant decisions...with our friendly supervision, ah, I meant advice, of course"

How are your countrymen reacting to Iuschchenko's victory ?

[Cheapskate]

I believe that Putin will roll the tanks inside of six months.

[ProudVet77]

Repeating myself, this could get violent very easily. W better give Putty a phone call.

[massgopguy]

So who controls the nukes in Ukraine?

[cake_crumb]

Sounds exactly like the Commie sleepers in this country : Hillary, Bill, Algore and Terry et al., said about president Bush in 2000. The Soviet Union is still lurking just around the corner, wating to jump out and consume EUrope again.

[Lukasz]

I read recently interview with polish president Kwasniewski who helped in Kiev as a negotiator. Other negotiators were Lithuanian president Adamkus, chief of EU foreign policy Solana and Russian Duma speaker Gryzlov.

Kwasniewski said to Kuchma that elections was rigged and Kuchma remark was that isn’t true, beside of that in US there was many problems as well, recently and four years ago. Similar argumentation with US was used by Yanukovych and Gryzlov in their speeches. Then Kwasniewski was irritated a bit and said that from their points he understand that we should write to the official protocol of our meeting that we condemn USA for how they organized elections. No one even laughed from that statement but later they forget about US elections.

[cake_crumb]

"I believe that Putin will roll the tanks inside of six months."

No doubt.

[ProudVet77]

I vaguely recall that the Ukraine gave them to the Russians.

[Atlantic Friend]

In the "evil" corner, you had present PM Yanukovitch, ex-Communist apparatchik IIRc, very cosy with the Ukrainian robber barons that control the privatized business and the underground, and a good friend of Vlad Putin.

In the "good" corner, you have the newly-elected man, Iuschchenko. Favorite in the elections, he seems to have faced fraud, and was even poisoned with dioxin by some bigwigs in Ukraine's secret services which are closely linked to the ex-KGB Vlad Putin used to be a member of.

The previous round of the election, which had Yanukovitch win, has been cancelled by their Supreme Court under cries (and evidence) of vote-tampering, voters intimidation and general fraud. The recent election has been a re-run of the second turn of the election, and Iuschchenko has been declared the winner, which has pissed off Putin considerably, to the point he now says Russia won't recognize the new Ukrainian government. And to make matters even murkier, Yanukovitch seems very reluctant to concede victory and to step down.

[stuartcr]

By good guy/bad guy...you mean the one that we're backing?

[cake_crumb]

Yushenko is considered the good guy by Ukrain's equivalant of "red staters". Yanukovich is an old school communist like Putin, and backed by him.

[Grzegorz 246]

They gave their nukes to Russia in about mid 90's.

[GarySpFc]

There is little doubt the final die has been cast, and Yushchenko won this round. However, the election hasn't even been certified yet, and Yushchenko supporters will not allow the present government to meet. Furthermore, he won by less than 8%, which is not the huge landslide the MSM predicted. Indeed, it appears the original election results just might have been correct. The negative publicity Yanukovich received and positive Yushchenko received clearly gave the latter the election. I sincerely believe George Soros, the MSM, and the John Birchers won this election...truth did not.

[Lukasz]

At least US and UK aren’t now with them like after WWII.

Poles are happy, we had 3000 observers there and they didn’t saw any big frauds, only little mistakes.

[Grzegorz 246]

Russia may kiss my red and white ass.

[bruin66]

Ukraine -- Banana Republic of the North