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Human brain result of 'extraordinarily fast' evolution
The Guardian (UK) ^
| Wednesday December 29, 2004
| Alok Jha, science correspondent
Posted on 12/29/2004 9:14:28 AM PST by aculeus
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To: HamiltonJay
I agree, you can believe in evolution and still be a christian and creationist.
To: Elsie
It's the timeframe, but I also don't believe the bible speaks to anyone. I believe that people read the bible, and interpret it, and love the words that are contained in it. I believe that some people follow the teachings that are in the bible and are drawn closer to God by his word.
522
posted on
01/02/2005 5:09:30 AM PST
by
imfleck
To: Elsie
demonstrate to whom?To other scientists.
To: VadeRetro
There seems to be an odd disorder in your taste buds. Well, more for me! True. I have a "beneficial mutation" for modern life.
524
posted on
01/02/2005 9:33:29 AM PST
by
balrog666
(I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.)
To: Matchett-PI
Oh, man, that was such a pathetic response...
So, let's see, you don't want to teach the science of evolution because you find Darwin's views on race and sex to be offense? Nice ad hominem attack. Don't teach the science of evolution in schools because English society during the Victorian Era held distasteful views on women and black people--your powers of reasoning are breathtaking.
Marvin Lubenow is not a "Darwinist/macroevolutionist". He is a creationist. It shows the absolute bankruptcy of your position that you have to lie about him to support your ridiculous argument. Who are you going to cite next, the famed evolutionary biologist Duane Gish??
"... every Darwinist does argue from an unproven and unprovable premise: that something can come out of nothing.
Wrong. Typical ill-informed creationist crap. Evolution doesn't require "something from nothing". It is about descent with modification. Even abiogenesis doesn't require "something from nothing".
That takes "Darwinianism" out of the realm of science and into the realm of blind faith religion. If you want to have a theological debate, that's one thing. But don't assert that evolution is factually correct ...and don't force the state to spread that doctrine in schools.
Again, you are talking out of your ass. The science of evolution is based on the millions of data points that support the theory. That is not science, not religion.
And the creationist tactic to assert that evolution and creationism are equally scientific or equally religious is as tiresome as it is mendacious.
Religion is when you reject the scientific data, or make meaningless distinctions like "macroevolution" and "microevolution", or waste your time arguing between the mutually ridiculous contentions such as "young earth" versus "old earth", all because you think your faith is threatened by evolution.
To: WildHorseCrash; balrog666; VadeRetro; longshadow
Creationists have something in common with toilet-bathers. They each do different things, of course, but each engages in disgusting behavior. Creationists cling to demonstrated untruths, and toilet-bathers ... well, you can figure it out. When you catch them at it, and point out what they're doing, they don't care. It's hard to believe, but somehow exposure makes no change in their behavior. They literally can't be shamed. I think in both cases, they do it because they actually enjoy the shame.
526
posted on
01/02/2005 10:13:36 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
To: atlaw; jennyp
The only question is, what are they transitioning into? Nightmares tonight
To: PatrickHenry; Dr. Eckleburg; bondserv; AndrewC
Interesting post. Also, I am not
ashamed that I know that my redeemer liveth : for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
Your empty Christian hating faith will bring you nothing, ever
To: D Edmund Joaquin; PatrickHenry
Also, I am not ashamed that I know that my redeemer liveth: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day...Your empty Christian hating faith will bring you nothing, ever.Amen, d'ed. And Happy New Year, by the grace of God alone.
"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." -- John 16:33.
Amazing how many cheerful Christians there are in the world among the puckered, dissolute and bitter masses.
We advance by God's will alone.
529
posted on
01/02/2005 3:31:41 PM PST
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: D Edmund Joaquin
"They are true believers and have no disagreements. The reason for this is that they know the theory is true. When believers know that strongly that something is true they don't question it. (Notice how absolutely no proponent of evolution here, ever questions even one little thing about it.) And "when you don't question it, you're living by faith, not by science."(Ian Stewart, quoted from Does God Play Dice? The Mathematics of Chaos) For these people here, few of them scientists, mind you, they are defending dogma" I only play with the unserious one-armed boat rowers for so long and then it gets boring going in circles.
I hopped out of their boats over 30 posts ago. LOL
530
posted on
01/02/2005 8:13:19 PM PST
by
Matchett-PI
(Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
To: Matchett-PI
The Bible teaches that death is a foreigner, a condition superimposed upon humans and nature after creation.
It sure seems to me, that ternal life should have "evolved" by now, as it is sure simpler to STAY living than to go thru the process of reproduction.........
531
posted on
01/02/2005 8:29:45 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: VadeRetro
Hey!
You ain't the guy on WKRP who thought turkeys could FLY are you????
532
posted on
01/02/2005 8:35:17 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: VadeRetro
But.. it ain't whether you win or lose; but how you play the game that counts.
533
posted on
01/02/2005 8:37:15 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Elsie
534
posted on
01/02/2005 8:40:23 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Elsie
The Bible teaches that death is a foreigner, a condition superimposed upon humans and nature after creation.
2 Corinthians 2:14-17
But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ and through us
spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of him. For we are to God the aroma of Christ
among those who are being saved and those who are perishing.
To the one we are the smell of death; to the other, the fragrance of life.
And who is equal to such a task?
Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit.
On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God.
535
posted on
01/02/2005 8:47:20 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Elsie
You make such profound statements. LOL
536
posted on
01/02/2005 9:32:09 PM PST
by
Matchett-PI
(Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
To: Elsie
537
posted on
01/02/2005 9:35:10 PM PST
by
Matchett-PI
(Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
To: Elsie
Moses was divinely inspired. The concepts/laws/ideas given to him were the major catalysing force of human history.
To: Red Sea Swimmer
Now that makes quite a bit of sense to me and can understand it to be true.
To: Red Sea Swimmer
Now will come the Flood of Hammiburi (SP?) stuff that came BEFORE Moses, etal.
540
posted on
01/03/2005 5:17:02 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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