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To: Dane
Whoa, that was a long time ago (re Lieberman) and that was a tiny part of my opinion of the man (not a fan, but at least he supported the war on terror).

If the rhetoric that you are now proclaiming now were taken when the rehtoric was at a same low level fever pitch a century ago, you may not have been able to post on FR, now. Your ancestors could have been sent back to Germany, Poland, or Russia.

Why, that is not true. My grandparents had to wait and always at great risk until they could receive legal visas to come here. It was hard when they were Displaced Persons with no country to claim them. But eventually they were accepted, with sponsors here, and with promised jobs.

I am absolutely in support of legal immigration. It does make this country great.

You are accusing me of being anti-Hispanic. That is false. I don't care from which corner of the world any of our legal immigrants come. My corner of the country will always be very Hispanic and I am glad.

To refute my stance on ILLEGAL immigration you had to insult my Judaism, my family's history, and call me a racist. Those ad hominem debate "skills" are really not putting your argument forward, if you have one.

169 posted on 12/29/2004 11:20:00 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle; Dane; Admin Moderator
To refute my stance on ILLEGAL immigration you had to insult my Judaism, my family's history, and call me a racist.

All in a Dane's work!

177 posted on 12/29/2004 11:26:58 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Yaelle
Why, that is not true. My grandparents had to wait and always at great risk until they could receive legal visas to come here. It was hard when they were Displaced Persons with no country to claim them. But eventually they were accepted, with sponsors here, and with promised jobs.

I am absolutely in support of legal immigration. It does make this country great

My Grandmother came here on a ticket and hope in 1919(she did have distant reletives here at the time). My Grandfather came here by himself with only a hope and a prayer in the mid 1910's and went back to the old world and came back.

I'm sorry to buttress your rhetoric, but there was no rhyme or reason to immigration before 1920. If you could pass the health test arriving at Ellis Island, you were allowed in to fend for yourself in America, and a lot of us are now enjoying the fruits of their hard work.

That's why I chuckle at those on FR who wish for a neo-porgrom of new immigrants, when the vast majority of these peoples ancestors, also faced the animus that these people on FR spew now.

179 posted on 12/29/2004 11:29:36 AM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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