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Socialism Isn't Christianity
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| Dec. 28, 2004
| Thomas R. Eddison
Posted on 12/28/2004 4:25:51 PM PST by Lindykim
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:25:51 PM PST
by
Lindykim
To: ItsOurTimeNow; DirtyHarryY2K; Ed Current
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:26:52 PM PST
by
Lindykim
To: Lindykim
On November 2, the American people overwhelmingly voted down the overtly anti-Christian far-left agenda adopted by the Democratic
Is voting FOR something the same as voting against something else ?
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:36:14 PM PST
by
stylin19a
(Marines - end of discussion)
To: Lindykim
hmm... was there carpenters unions in Jesus's time?
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:39:07 PM PST
by
Citizen James
(Continue Work as if you were to live a hundred years, Pray as if you were to die tomorrow.)
To: stylin19a
To: Lindykim
Sadly, this is as clear as mud to too many folks.
I had a party guest at my 4th of July Bar-B-Q that tried to use the Good Samaritan scripture on me as the excuse for the welfare state, and I told him about it being an individual responsibility, and not HIS responsibility to see to it that MY money went to what HE thought was important.
The Church, the Body of Christ, is very generous. I prefer to give to my church of choice, and to the fund of choice. That, and I like to help someone that I can check up on and hold accountable for improving himself if necessary.
Without having our money taken from us by force(taxes)to give to the socialist regime, we would have that much more to use to truly help those in need, and be able to discern those that only want to be on the dole.
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:41:34 PM PST
by
Blue Collar Christian
(Maybe godless liberalism doesn't belong in science class. ><BCC>)
To: Lindykim
that is so a definate ping
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:45:41 PM PST
by
Ksnavely
To: Lindykim
This is in line with the TV spot UCC ran.
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:47:04 PM PST
by
DBrow
To: Klickitat
related to your recent post about liberal Christianity and globalism...
To: Lindykim
most excellent!
thanks for posting.
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:50:26 PM PST
by
socialismisinsidious
("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
Comment #11 Removed by Moderator
To: Semaphore Heathcliffe
You have a link for that?
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:54:00 PM PST
by
Blue Collar Christian
(Maybe godless liberalism doesn't belong in science class. ><BCC>)
To: Blue Collar Christian
To: Blue Collar Christian
Sadly, this is as clear as mud to too many folks. And the liberals are so smart that they will clarify it in the minds of all the smartest people, (the ones who voted for Kerry, because he was smart enough to understand.)/sarcasm
It is interesting that communism can wrap its message in a cloak of simple logic that makes it appear that everyone will be better off under socialism, there are some very hard working self employed people who think everything would be better under socialism. Hard to understand.
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posted on
12/28/2004 4:55:27 PM PST
by
KC_for_Freedom
(Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
To: Lindykim
related thread - How Liberal Christianity Promotes Open Borders and One-Worldism
To: Lindykim
"13. Continuing our reflections, and referring also to what has been said in the Encyclicals Laborem exercens and Sollicitudo rei socialis, we have to add that the fundamental error of socialism is anthropological in nature. Socialism considers the individual person simply as an element, a molecule within the social organism, so that the good of the individual is completely subordinated to the functioning of the socio-economic mechanism. Socialism likewise maintains that the good of the individual can be realized without reference to his free choice, to the unique and exclusive responsibility which he exercises in the face of good or evil. Man is thus reduced to a series of social relationships, and the concept of the person as the autonomous subject of moral decision disappears, the very subject whose decisions build the social order. From this mistaken conception of the person there arise both a distortion of law, which defines the sphere of the exercise of freedom, and an opposition to private property. A person who is deprived of something he can call "his own", and of the possibility of earning a living through his own initiative, comes to depend on the social machine and on those who control it. This makes it much more difficult for him to recognize his dignity as a person, and hinders progress towards the building up of an authentic human community." Pope John Paull II, Centisimus annus
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posted on
12/28/2004 5:03:32 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
To: Lindykim
This is a part of what's been lost thanks to publik screwls.
The Founders understood this implicitly, and based our government on it.
Noah Webster, the man personally responsible for Art. I, Sec. 8, ¶ 8, of the U. S. Constitution, explained two centuries ago:
The duties of men are summarily comprised in the Ten Commandments, consisting of two tables; one comprehending the duties which we owe immediately to God-the other, the duties we owe to our fellow men.
Separation of church and state is a lie promoted to keep government from having to follow moral, or natural law.
David Barton, a contemporary historian and founder of wallbuilders, has written and legally filed an Affidavit in Support of the Ten Commandments. It illustrates the Christian foundation of our laws & government
http://www.leaderu.com/common/affadavittencommand.html
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posted on
12/28/2004 5:03:50 PM PST
by
MamaTexan
(I am NOT a 'legal entity')
To: Lindykim
This is a interesting question, as to whether the left can claim a Christian basis for social programs. While Christ urged people to give everything they had to the poor. I believe that you are correct, there is no reference in the bible to having the government do it for you. It is a spiritual issue for the individual to decide. I think, oddly enough, that many social programs have been tolerated by the electorate out of a sense of Christian charity. I think that many victims of storms, floods and sundry other occurrences of bad luck are happy that the government does involve itself in helping people on occasion.
To: Lindykim
"No one can read the New Testament of our Bible without recognizing that Jesus had a lot more to say about how we treat the poor than most of the issues that were talked about in this election" The New Testament also has some things to say about adultery if Hillary is interested.
I don`t know what the percentage of the Scriptures is devoted to the poor but I suspect it is 1% or less.To ignore the remainder or the context of those verses concerning the poor is typical of the left.
The so called social gospel that grew out of 60seccumenialism and the WCC attempts to replace the Gospel of salvation through faith with one of good works and compassion.As such it fits in with the modern liberal political thought.
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posted on
12/28/2004 5:07:53 PM PST
by
carlr
To: Semaphore Heathcliffe
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posted on
12/28/2004 5:09:18 PM PST
by
Blue Collar Christian
(Maybe godless liberalism doesn't belong in science class. ><BCC>)
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