[Ichneumon]

Here's a good experiment... Ask anyone who says they believe in evolution if they've ever read on book on the subject. Most folks believe not because they've done in-depth research into the subject but rather because the theory is so pervasive in our culture that they dont give it a second thought.

That cuts both ways. And in my long experience it's *far* more common for creationists to be in that boat than evolutionists. I have yet to converse with a creationist who clearly had a good understanding of the evolutionary biology he was attempting to "disprove". And yes, that includes my online debate with Phillip Johnson -- I had to keep correcting him on matters that a first-year biology student should have already mastered.

[jennyp]

And yes, that includes my online debate with Phillip Johnson -- I had to keep correcting him on matters that a first-year biology student should have already mastered.

You had an online debate with Phillip Johnson??? When did that happen???

[atlaw]

Well heck. I've been dipping into the the "crevo" threads for quite awhile now, and I'm embarrassed to admit that this is the first I've heard of an on-line debate between you and Philip "Snake-oil" Johnson.

I'd like to read that exchange. Do you have a cite?