I intend to fight my hardest to make sure the shamesty does not go thru.
Count me in on the side of the line drawn in the sand by Tancredo. Going to do everything I can to bring as many with me as possible.
What is so hard about sealing the border?
If its a good idea to have a million new immigrants each year, then fine, make the argument. Lets have that discussion, nationally, publicly. What we must not do is simply accept that number because that happens to be the number that walk across the border.
Immigration policy must serve the interests of citizens. It should never be simply a tool for adjusting wages, or a means for undermining labor law, or a way to adjust voter demographics. It should serve the interests of citizens, and whatever number we arrive at, whether 300,000 a year, or ten times that number, the leadership should be able to explain how that number was arrived at, and why that number is the right one, and not some other.
Far from installing a guest-worker program, I would favor a moratorium on new immigrants for a few years, restricting it to family members of citizens, and a very few others.
The notion that immigrants take jobs that Americans don't want is a distortion of truth; they take jobs that Americans don't want at the price offered, and the conditions offered. Close off illegal immigration and wages for these jobs will exceed legal minimums without any need for a minimum wage law, as employers suddenly have to compete for workers.
With GOP help like this, we'll never solve California's financial problems.
Over the years Bush has displayed a lot of good old-fashioned common sense. But not on this issue. He has yet to explain why he supports giving US citizenship to people that have broken our laws. Bush said: "Family values do not stop at the Rio Grande River..." <--What the heck does that mean? Where did he get that line? From Bill Clinton? Criminal intent does not stop at the borders, various diseases do not stop at the borders, etc.
One thing that MUST BE CHANGED is the asinine idea that whenever someone enters this country illegally and then has a child that child automatically become a US citizen. What a stupid idea that has always been.
The details are not yet available but I am totally against what is said so far. However I am against wholesale expulsions. New laws would just mean our government and business leaders have more laws to ignore as it suits their personal benefit.
The evidence of a 1990's explosion of ILLEGAL immigration is both quantifiable and tangible. The SSA's Earnings Suspense File (ESF) of W-2 data reported for phony / stolen SSNs jumped from a yearly average of around 10 billions in earrings to over 50 billions in earnings reported per year.
Given an average of $20,000 there would be 2.5 million ILLEGAL aliens working "on the books" by 2000. (There couldn't been that many marriages and other name changes without notifying SSA in the 1990s.)
Our government and businesses invited them in. IMO.
To me if a theater chain's governing board speaks publicly about the people's right to see good movies and then hinders management from always having a ticket seller at the door, well.. personally I don't call it criminal for the public to just walk in. The governing board effectively decreed that the rules be suspended.
Most probably don't agree but surely most will consider separating the real criminals among the ILLEGAL aliens from the workers. The workers can be further refined into "off books" and "on books". There's also a breakout of seasonal and permanent jobholders.
A one-size-fits-all solutions will not work.
I am with you. I am just getting outraged over this nonsense. My Wife came from China, LELGALLY. She come with nothing, received her green card, learned the language, worked,paid taxes and never asked the govt for anything but a chance. She now runs her own business. She is just a PO'd about illegals this as I am.
Unfortunately, this means that good immigration reform, like sending illegal aliens back and real border control will go by the wayside in this administration. Hopefully, the next one will feel free to tackle this issue. Legal Hispanics benefit when illegals are minimized.
This is all based on the idea of filling "jobs that Americans don't want to do". You can put that problem right back to a welfare system that encourages able bodied slackers not to work at any job.
I'm curious as to how Mexico deals with immigration? Is Vicente Fox as generous in regards to this in his country?
Ummmm...I don't know where they are getting their information, but it is my understanding that those who are granted guest worker status under this program will not be given any advantage on the path to citizenship.
Excerpt:
Some temporary workers will make the decision to pursue American citizenship. Those who make this choice will be allowed to apply in the normal way. They will not be given unfair advantage over people who have followed legal procedures from the start. I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship. Granting amnesty encourages the violation of our laws, and perpetuates illegal immigration. America is a welcoming country, but citizenship must not be the automatic reward for violating the laws of America.
Fair and Meaningful Citizenship Process: Some temporary workers will want to remain in America and pursue citizenship. They should not receive an unfair advantage over those who have followed the law, and they will need to be placed in line for citizenship behind those who are already in line.
Now Bush wants to allow millions of uneducated Mexicans into the US to leech off our tax base.
Ping
Fox is doing all the bitching, we need to demand more from them. Maybe something like an Oil for Illegals program. Or how about letting Americans own land on the border instead of having to go through a trust fund. Or how about repealing the limit of allowing only 49% of the land area to be owned by foreigners. Or demand that they teach English in their schools. The only way that shit hole is going to be fixed is if we buy it out and assimilate it into the US.
"The chance seems slim for finding common ground between those in favor of liberalized immigration laws - Bush, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for example.."
The usual suspects.