Posted on 12/27/2004 9:23:23 AM PST by calcowgirl
You must be a liberal becuase you always shift the argument. What we are discussing is the fact that Corporate America wants this worker program so as to avoid paying higher wages to Americans. They could care less if 50 or 100 cram into a tenement or live like animals.
If they find a way to clean toilets faster, good for them, but they have thus far not discovered a way to do that.
Wait till your job goes to some illegal willing to work for a fraction of the wage you get paid. You will sing a different tune amigo.
Is the poco going loco, over his cowardice to say that FED govt. unions are closed shops.
If you want to discus unions, then ping me to a thread about unions.
See post #84.
Your welcome.
I don't believe she'll ever put out a bill that would satisfy me on this issue so I'm not going to worry about it. The kool-aid drinkers bring it up as a diversionary tactic in the debate because they have little else.
I agree 100%. Dane's newest diversion is unions.
I feel sorry for the American workers who are still in the workforce and whose jobs are being targeted by greedy companies wanting to replace them with guest workers.
I live in NY and we are literally swamped with illegals standing on corners interupting traffic and the like. They are rude, dirty, and leave trash everywhere, even on the lawns of private homes.
A Hospital is a largely hispanic area is closing due to financial red ink. Why, these people use the emergency room for general care. Who do you think pays the bill? No one!
By law, you can't refuse anyone emergency room care.
I know, your preaching to the choir.
What is discussed at Free Republic on immigration is totally irrelevant. Congress is compelled to amend the original act so as to take care of the security problems.
That reform bill will contain the 'earned legalization' language.
After it is all said and done, you will be looking back in regret.
I guess the reason I get so worked up about this is because GWB obviously never read Gibbons and the fall of Rome. We are going the same way, fast.
That's why I say:
"Legalization by deportation - not legislation is the only common sense avenue for illegals. Bankruptcy is the only common sense avenue for felon employers."
I'd love to see a mandatory fine of sixty percent of a company's reported net annual income for hiring any illegal. No excuses - period.
Your union allegiance is relevant to your every immigration post. As is hadenuf's and others.
Talk about conflict of interest.
That would be nice and send the right signal.
Sorry, no conflict of interest here; just speculation on your part.
Funny you should mention productivity in an illegal (read cheap) labor thread. Funny because cheap labor is the enemy of productive labor. Why would anyone invests in technology or innovative procedures when they can just use cheap labor instead? If you care to research this at all just look at the difference between the high (relatively) labor north and the cheap (slave) labor south in pre civil war USA. One can learn a get deal studying history, one sees the north inventing, innovating, building factories etc but the south doesn't it relies instead on cheap labor. Also interesting to note that the use of slave labor also impoverished free white (and black) labor since free labor had to compete with slave labor.
Bottom line is cheap labor = poor society. Now maybe yall what to be poor, but I'd knida like to remain middle class, but that is going to be difficult with the all out assault on the middle class that the Bush administration has undertaken. I don't think Bush means to put the US middle class in the poor house but that will be the result of his economic policies. Unfortunately for us, Bush is clueless about middle America and completely out of touch with reality, kinda like his dad. A good man, means well but just plain clueless.
His/her horn's tuned to the same frequency as bayourod's.
'rod, I pung ya cause I won't talk about you to your back....;-)
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