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Dick Morris says Beware of Changing Cloture
World Net Daily ^ | Christmas Day | Dick Morris

Posted on 12/26/2004 3:08:49 PM PST by Aetius

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To: Aetius
I don't think the public, in general, pays much attention to the whole judicial nominating process. That's why the RATS have gotten away with what they have for so long.

Having said that. I don't think there will be any political fallout from going 'nuclear' on the nomination procedure when it comes to the filibuster.

I say nuke'em and let the voters sort it out!
21 posted on 12/26/2004 3:58:28 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, that was quite amazing that a US Sup Court justice would look overseas for guidance. If that were to become common, then it would be another barrier to conservative and Constitutional govt as we are not likely to get any good ideas from Europe.


22 posted on 12/26/2004 4:01:33 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Aetius
If President Bush nominates a Supreme Court justice who is a conservative in the mode of Sandra Day O'Connor or Anthony Kennedy ...

To place an ideological tag of any kind on Sandra Dee is ridiculous. I can't take her "reasoning" seriesly. Her opinions would get her flunked out of any reputable law school.

23 posted on 12/26/2004 4:01:51 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: Da Bilge Troll

It was possibly the most absurd thing he said in this piece. Roe was the judicial imposition of values; overturning it would result in 50 democratic solutions.


24 posted on 12/26/2004 4:04:16 PM PST by Aetius
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To: shubi

If the Sup Court actually respected the 10th Amendment then the national culture war would be but a shadow of what it has become. It is the outrageous power grab by the Courts that has closed democratic avenues, and that has made issues that should be decided by the people at the state level into national questions.

I wish that there would be some Constitutional show-down between the President and Congress versus the Sup Court. Unless the other branches stand up to this insanity it will continue. Of course on specific issues like gay marriage, some form of Constitutional Amendment should be pursued to stop the Courts, but generally a bigger, political debate about the proper role of the Courts should take place.


25 posted on 12/26/2004 4:10:02 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You're absolutely right!


26 posted on 12/26/2004 4:15:09 PM PST by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
I can't respect him at all. He kisses and tells all. I get disgusted every time I see him on FOX, he just a bitter man that uses the media to beat The Clintons up and down. I sincerely doubt that he cares about the right and wrong behavior of "their" administration. Please don't think I support The Clintons either, I think they are one step below Morris.
27 posted on 12/26/2004 4:16:18 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Yaelle

You call it centralist I call it two faced, with no spine.


28 posted on 12/26/2004 4:17:48 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Aetius

"but generally a bigger, political debate about the proper role of the Courts should take place."

Each of the three branches is in a deal with the devil with each other to usurp the power of the States and the people.


29 posted on 12/26/2004 4:18:37 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll; Salvation
Beware of Dick Morris.

He hates Christians, and is a pro-abortion fanatic.

30 posted on 12/26/2004 4:18:46 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Aetius

Well said.


31 posted on 12/26/2004 4:19:52 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Aetius

O'Connor and Kennedy are not "conservatives."

I heard Bob Beckel today say that the GOP would "rue the day" if they change the cloture requirement because the Dems would use the new rule against them someday when they retake power. First, the GOP has not generally used the filibuster to prevent Dem appointees from receiving a vote anyway, which is one of the reasons we've got this problem. Second, if Frist can change this rule, then what on earth would prevent a Dem Majority Leader from doing so, when the time comes? What can they offer us that assures that if we keep the rule in place, they will do so as well? Nothing.

We've got nothing to lose by knocking it out now, and I think we should do so.


32 posted on 12/26/2004 4:46:33 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Aetius

Bush just has to ask himself before every Judicial appointment: " How many more babies will be slaughtered because I appoint this sonovabitch?"

Homosexuals will continue their life threatening, disease friendly, life style, whether or not same sex marriages are legalized. The homosexual deaths from suicidal behavior, is mostly from voluntar actions.

First we save the next 40 million babies, threatened by Roe vs Wade and then worry about saving homosexuals from themselves.


33 posted on 12/26/2004 5:07:57 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (I resolve for 2005, to live my life as I would be if I had kept all my previous resolutions.)
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To: Brilliant

When Gay Marriage goes to the Supreme Court, the vote could be broken down like this:

In Favor of Gay Marriage: Stevens, Breyer, Souter, Ginsburg

Against Gay Marriage: Rehnquist, Scalia, Thomas

Swing Votes: Anthony Kennedy, Sandra Day O'Connor


It will be a close vote. If Rehnquist retires soon, his replacement will likely be against gay marriage and not change the line up of judges, on this and other cases. If Ruth Bader Ginsburg retires, for example, look for that to bring on a Bork or Thomas type of 3 ring circus confirmation, because a Ginsburg replacement could really tip the balance of the court.


34 posted on 12/26/2004 5:08:30 PM PST by Dan19
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O'Connor and Kennedy have already shown their hand, as far as I am concerned. Both of them voted to overturn the earlier decision upholding sodomy laws, and Kennedy wrote the opinion.

Of course, the two issues are not identical, but they have demonstrated that they will vote to change the Constitution by judicial fiat, and I have no doubt that they'd do the same here, if given the opportunity.

Personally, I think sodomy laws are dumb, but not so dumb that I think the Supreme Court should be able to simply substitute it's own "enlightened" viewpoint for what the Constitution actually says, and doesn't say.

Even the Canadian Supreme Court did not do that. They said that gay marriage is OK, provided that it is approved by the legislature. In the US, though, the issue is not whether gay marriage is allowed if approved by the legislature. The issue is whether courts should be able to mandate gay marriage, even if the legislature says, "No."


35 posted on 12/26/2004 5:17:31 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ScottFromSpokane
He is utterly illogical. If people do not desire judges to impose their own views on social consensus, that would demand the overturning of Roe. Either Morris does not know what Roe held or he is being utterly disingenuous.
36 posted on 12/26/2004 5:18:36 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Aetius
I like listening to Morris about Clinton, but he still believes in Clinton politics. The consumate poll reader and advised W to pull the troops to win the election. Hasn't a clue about what leadership is about, only triangulation to win elections. W was brilliant enough to ignore all of Morass' advice.

Pray for W and Our Troops

37 posted on 12/26/2004 5:22:38 PM PST by bray (The First of 4 More Years!)
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To: Aetius
If we want to stop the exsangunation of America from the liberal torture of the million cuts, we must eliminate the far left judicial tyranny in this Nation, and use any means necessary to put constructionists in all courts.

If the voters don't like the results, they can vote the liberals back in the legislative and executive.

38 posted on 12/26/2004 5:32:31 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I'm gonna hear it for this.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
I've never had a lot of respect for Morris's intellect, but this demonstration of his cluelessness astonishes even me.

President Bush has lost more brain cells than the toe sucker ever had.

He's a Rove wannabe.

39 posted on 12/26/2004 5:44:54 PM PST by mombonn ( ¡Viva Bush/Cheney! Dukakis and Kerry are the matching bookends of the Bush era.)
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To: Aetius
Dick Morris says Beware of Changing Cloture

this is all a misunderstanding. Dick Morris is fine with changing cloture; he's opposed to changing his socks.

40 posted on 12/26/2004 5:46:34 PM PST by smonk
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