[drt1]

Agree but if you really think about what these people are saying it is that the message, philosophy and morality are all trumped by the numbers. What this says to me is ANY policy or practice that increases the "Good" numbers is a success and any that increases the "Bad" numbers is a failure, irrespective of the policy or practice itself. IMO A pretty cynical approach to religious practices.

[wolfpat]

You're right, especially about the cynicism. If I understand correctly, the Unitarian Church is for people who have to belong to a church to be upstanding members of the community, but don't really believe in anything.
The Episcopalians are becoming the same thing.
BTW, I used to have an Episcopalian friend who referred to himself as a Whiskeypalian.