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Horowitz: N. Korea To Implode In a Year(gone by next Xmas?)
Yonhap News ^ | Kim Dae-young | 12/24/04

Posted on 12/24/2004 4:03:10 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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Horowitz: N. Korea To Implode In a Year( gone by next Xmas?)

"The Passage of N. Korean Human Right Act signals the demise of N. Korean regime"

(Washington/Yonhap) Kim Dae-young - Speaking of N. Korea, Michael Horowitz, a leading American conservative figure and a Senior Fellow at Hudson Institute, predicted on (Dec) 23rd that N. Korea will "implode" within a year.

In a lecture given at Hudson Institute in Washington D.C. under the title of "It Ain’t Christmas in Pyongyang: Will the Kim Jong-Il Regime Last?", he told the audience, "N. Korea will implode before the next Christmas. Kim Jong-il won't enjoy Christmas next year."

Horowitz recently made a trip to S. Korea, during which he leveled criticisms toward S. Korean government's policy on N. Korea and advocated the regime-change in N. Korea.

He said, "The collapse of communist regimes is a historical inevitability. N. Korea will collapse on her own. Its day is fast-approaching."

He also mentioned the possibility of a coup inside N. Korea.

He went on to say, "After we find a few generals who could shut down their political prison camps and nuclear weapons programs, we could send them a message, saying that we could support them if they take certain actions.

I am sure that the political cost China has to pay for keeping Kim Jong-il regime afloat, is rising to the point that China had selected a N. Korean general who would replace Kim Jong-il. Chinese have studied a scenario in which the chosen general overthrows the regime, declares the state of emergency in N. Korea, and ask China to send 200,000 troops into the country."

As for N. Korean Human Right Act, he said, "Last September, in an unanimous vote, the Senate passed N. Korean Human Right Act, which is tougher than its House version. This is a strong signal for the demise of N. Korean regime. It was a dismaying development for this great country(S. Korea) that, while touring countries like Poland and Britain, (S. Korean) President Roh Moo-hyun talked about how Kim Jong-il will get to stay around for a long time." He also emphasized that Roh Moo-hyun's popularity is mere 19%.

A participant, who is an official from S. Korean embassy to U.S, countered, "Roh Moo-hyun's policy on N. Korea reflects a majority opinion of S. Koreans. S. Korean government is in close consultation with American government. N. Korean human right is important. However, we have to also consider WMD's, intra-Korean co-operation. We need to approach N. Korean problem in a multi-dimensional way. It is complicated and tangled."

However, Horowitz retorted, "The problem is not complicated, but quite simple. The more you give money to N. Korea in exchange for dismantling nuclear weapons, the more nukes would N. Korea get to make."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appeasement; china; christmas; coup; humanright; kimjongil; nkorea; northkorea; pla; regimechange; skorea; us
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To: alessandrofiaschi
Re #17

Lefties will do anything to keep it from becoming a lasting monument, because it will remind them of their monumental folly.

21 posted on 12/24/2004 5:20:20 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: cardinal4

"Where would Kim and his ilk go?"

If he is smart, he will head to Paris early next year.

If the ChiComs come knocking at his doors, he will not get the same civilized treatment that $oddom has received.


22 posted on 12/24/2004 5:21:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

2005 might be a land mark year for freedom around the world!

We could see regime changes in Iran, Syria, N Korea and the death of Castro and regime change in Cuba.


23 posted on 12/24/2004 5:23:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: Rockingham
Who knows, perhaps we will one day see the liberation of our college campuses.

No. They are tapped into capitalist funding. Socialism has found a means for survival. It's called a "mixed economy".

24 posted on 12/24/2004 5:25:14 AM PST by beavus
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wow! If we get rid of Kim Jong Il, Castro, and Hugo Chavez, somebody puts dioxin in Putin's soup, then all we've got left are Hillary and the rest of the Democratic Party. This IS good news!


25 posted on 12/24/2004 5:26:23 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: TigerLikesRooster

From your keyboard to God's own eyes! Now that would be a lovely Christmas present for the world.


26 posted on 12/24/2004 5:27:37 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Re #23

I can't wait for Watershed 2005:)

27 posted on 12/24/2004 5:27:38 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Rockingham

"communist regimes all seem to have a natural life span of about fifty to seventy five years? Who knows, perhaps we will one day see the liberation of our college campuses."

Besides the colleges, we could see the liberation of the Democrat Party from the Commies who have held it captive since the 1960's. Of course the ruling elite of the Rats like the Kerris, Kennedy's, Clintoons, Edwierds, DiFis, Boxers, and $oreA$$'s have moved from communism to elite fascism like the rulers of Nazi Germany.


28 posted on 12/24/2004 5:28:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: MizSterious
Re #26

For Watershed 2005:)

29 posted on 12/24/2004 5:29:36 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"I can't wait for Watershed 2005:)"

This could be an incredible year through out the world. We need to stand firm with our support of GW and his administration and our military.

Merry Christmas and thanks for all of your great posts on N Korea and pings. You have provided a great service to Freepers and those who get emails from us.


30 posted on 12/24/2004 5:31:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: Joe Boucher

If the PDR falls, is there any doubt that the U.S. taxpayer will be forced to send a few billion to reconstruct North Korea?


31 posted on 12/24/2004 5:32:32 AM PST by snopercod (Bigger government means clinton won. Less freedom means Osama won. Get it?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

....Can we infer that operations are already in progress .....


Of course. When agreement was reached with China on a mutually agreeable course of action, the actions began.


32 posted on 12/24/2004 5:33:09 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic.....)
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To: ConservativeMan55; TigerLikesRooster
As you may know, David is the Horowitz at the Hudson Institute, and the only Horowitz I know likely to be labeled a conservative.

HF

33 posted on 12/24/2004 5:34:06 AM PST by holden (holden awnuhnuh truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: DB
They were "saying the same thing" about capitalism.

Right. Wishful thinking.

"Osama's dead."
"The rapture will be next Friday."

34 posted on 12/24/2004 5:47:07 AM PST by trickyricky
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To: TigerLikesRooster

As much as Kim Jong ILL and his depraved family have tried to depict North Korea as the ultimate accomplishment of Communism (indeed, North Korean texts laud Kim Il Sung and his nutball offspring as having carried the theories of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc., to their logical conclusion and BEYOND), there is nothing 'Communist' about North Korea, just as there was nothing truly Communist about the defunct Soviet Union or Red China in it's current form.

Communism by definition represents a classless society, and in every so-called Communist regime, there are two classes: the haves and have nots, which always equate to the rulers and the ruled respectively.

What the Kim family has done is exactly what Khrushchev condemned in his famous 1956 speech in which he denounced what became known as the 'cult of the personality' (referring to Stalin), and 5 years after that, Stalin was moved out of the mausoleum with Lenin, and into a discreet grave near the Kremlin wall.

That doesn't make Khruschev a good guy in my book, but it does demonstrate that even he recognized that building up the faith of the people in one individual was dangerous and finite, because ultimately - all people die.

That 'cult of the personality' is what Kim Jong Il has in common with Saddam Hussein, everything revolves around the 'leader', the few good things that exist are all due to the benevolence of that leader, and all bad things are caused by (who else?) the "enemies" of the people (note too, that those "enemies" are never referred to as personal enemies of the 'leader', they are ALWAYS enemies of the people en masse, which makes the leader's struggles, the struggle of the people). It is the same tactic used by megalomaniacs from Hitler to Jim Jones. And the result is always the same. When the house of cards comes down, (and it always does) disaster and tragedy are visited upon the victims whether they believed in the 'leader' or not.

Which is why I would be concerned about a mass forced 'suicide' of the North Korean people, because Kim Jon Il *knows* that after he is gone, his entire legacy will be remembered only for his cruelty and the cruelty of his family towards the North Korean people, just like the Ceaucescus of Romania are remembered today: as thuggish animals and predators.

Kim Jong Il would rather see the entire North Korean nation disappear (as did Hitler view Germany in early 1945) than to allow them to survive him. How might he do this? There are not enough bullets in the country, but he could direct that all men, women and children be administered (ahem) "radiation protection pills", claiming that a U.S. nuclear strike was imminent, when in fact the pills would be poison little different from what was forced upon the unwilling (and willing) dupes at Jonestown more than 25 years ago.

I hope I'm wrong about such a horrifying possibility, but nothing I've seen from Kim Jong Il's behavior causes me to be optimistic about ANYthing.


35 posted on 12/24/2004 6:09:08 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: Rockingham

"Who knows, perhaps we will one day see the liberation of our college campuses."

It is good to aim high.


36 posted on 12/24/2004 6:14:33 AM PST by dervish (Europe can go to Islam)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I wish Horowitz would keep his mouth shut about North Korea. I've been trying to persuade the PEST-sufferers to move there.


37 posted on 12/24/2004 6:17:16 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: cardinal4
Where would Kim and his ilk go?

I'd bet Jimmy Carter has a spare bedroom.........

38 posted on 12/24/2004 6:18:17 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wow!!! Horowitz is worth listening to or reading anytime. Thanks for the post!


39 posted on 12/24/2004 6:26:51 AM PST by hershey
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To: hershey
Re #39

Mind you, this man is Michael Horowitz. Not more famous David.:)

40 posted on 12/24/2004 6:35:15 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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