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Feinstein wants end to Electoral College Senator says she'll seek constitutional amendment
San Francisco Chronicle (Online) ^ | 12/23/2004 | Edward Epstein

Posted on 12/23/2004 8:40:52 AM PST by 1066AD

Feinstein wants end to Electoral College Senator says she'll seek constitutional amendment

- Edward Epstein, Chronicle Washington Bureau Thursday, December 23, 2004

Washington -- Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Wednesday that when Congress returns in January, she will propose a constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral College and replace it with a one-person, one-vote system for electing the nation's president and vice president.

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"The Electoral College is an anachronism, and the time has come to bring our democracy into the 21st century," Feinstein said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrathack; democratparty; democratpartyhack; electoralcollege; evil; hack; hatesamerica; jamitdifi; whenhellfreezesover; zot
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To: Final Authority
"Actually, I think it will be a court case before or after an amendment is offered. The concept is exactly as she stated, one person, one vote."

The Constitution itself cannot be ruled unconstitutional if constitutional principles are applied. The way the Dems will try to do this is by invoking extra-constitutional principles, perhaps from contemporary international law, to basically abrogate the Constitution.
101 posted on 12/23/2004 9:28:13 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: snowman1
Do you remember the 2000 election mess in Florida? How would you like to see a court case in every precinct in the country? We would have to push the inauguration back for a year to wait until the dust settles.
102 posted on 12/23/2004 9:29:05 AM PST by Bring Back Old Sparky
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To: snowman1

Do you really want NY and CA deciding who the president is?


103 posted on 12/23/2004 9:29:10 AM PST by jcb8199
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To: 1066AD
The Electoral College is an anachronism....

Awfully big word for such a small mind.

104 posted on 12/23/2004 9:31:47 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: snowman1
As much as I hate to say it "I agree with this DemoRAT". The electoral college has long outlived it's usefulness. With todays communications setup we don't need it.

BS. The electoral college is still needed. It is the only way to have fair elections that represent all the states. What your saying is the same old tired argument that the constitution should "change with the times", which is just another way of doing away with it. We are a republic not a democracy, we do not have majority rule. We still need the electoral college.

105 posted on 12/23/2004 9:34:27 AM PST by calex59
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To: 1066AD
Eliminate the electoral college and then the corrupt thieving Democrats will use California and New York to stuff the Ballot Box just like the partisan hacks in King County are stealing the Washington Governor's race.
106 posted on 12/23/2004 9:34:55 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: William of Orange

Yes. The problem with one man = one vote is that the cities, who can manufacture votes at will would always dominate the election. Just ask the people of Washington if you need to understand how this works.


107 posted on 12/23/2004 9:40:17 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: snowman1
The electoral college has long outlived it's usefulness. With todays communications setup we don't need it.

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul.

Merry Christmas

FMCDH(BITS)

108 posted on 12/23/2004 9:48:15 AM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: CougarGA7

The truth is that if you go for a one-man-one-vote concept...then you might as well forget about the Iowa/New Hampshire pre-runs...they will disappear within four years. You basically worry about the entire west coast, Texas, the south by itself, the iron-belt of Ohio/Michigan/Indiana/Chicago and New York. Everyone else, especially those from Idaho, North Dakota and Alaska...can foget about their significance in elections. If I were a major candidate...I'd pump every dollar in major urban areas and max out exposure as much as possible in the top 30 cities in America. It simply makes sense.

There is a reason why we went to the electoral college. If the good senator from california thinks getting rid of the electoral college is a good idea...then we ought to think the same about the senate...because its the same problem and same issue. We don't really need a Senate if the house does the job they are suppose to. We can save over $300 million a year by cutting out the Senate. I'd be in favor of that.


109 posted on 12/23/2004 9:52:07 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: 1066AD

The 50 states would become mere zones on a national map.


110 posted on 12/23/2004 9:54:54 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: 1066AD

difi.

this has been on the wish list of lefists since at least the late sixites.

i had a college instructor from berkeley who wanted "one person, one vote".


111 posted on 12/23/2004 9:55:25 AM PST by ken21 (kerrycide = running 4 president on treasonous service in vietnam)
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To: snowman1

The electoral college is part of the basis for a union of states rather than a homogenized federal republic. So, I take it you are against states' rights as well?


112 posted on 12/23/2004 9:56:54 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: michigander

Read Madison's Journal.


113 posted on 12/23/2004 9:57:16 AM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: A. Pole
USA is an UNION of distinct states... Taking away this states right, would change the office of President into unitary national office in pattern of France. USA would stop to be the Union to this extent.

I agree with you. Eliminating the electoral college changes the nature of the union; it would further erode the notion of being a union of states.

I don't think its going to happen. Barring some abuse of the electoral college system that everyone agrees is an abuse, there is no reason and no support to change it. The fact that you can lose the popular election and win the electoral count is not an abuse, it is a circumstance that cuts both ways and could favor one party as easily as another. (Its a "feature", not a "bug").

If Bush had won the popular vote, and lost the electoral count, I would be as annoyed as the Dems have been these last few years, especially if the beneficiary were someone like Kerry or Gore (or Clinton II). But being annoyed is not sufficient reason to change it.

114 posted on 12/23/2004 9:57:54 AM PST by marron
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To: 1066AD

How about a constitutional amendment that would stop people on the public dole from voting?


115 posted on 12/23/2004 10:00:47 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (I went to school for 20 years, well I went to the 10th grade twice.)
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To: whereasandsoforth

People like the lady down the street with all her Kerry signs. Here in the Gay Area, in addition to all the old line Liberals there are all these relative newcomers, typically relos from long standing Lib areas of the NE, who add to the problem. Then there are all the freaks. Used to be that 1/2 or more of us Californians were conservatives but those days have withered away. And Arnie thinks the GOP should move left? Get out man! I ain't moving Left. Any move I make will be a location move, out of the formerly-Golden State.


116 posted on 12/23/2004 10:02:29 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Military family member
Read Madison's Journal.

How's this?

I don't see anything about that in there.

117 posted on 12/23/2004 10:04:24 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: 1066AD

Why does "DipStick" come to mind?


118 posted on 12/23/2004 10:05:00 AM PST by jos65
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To: Military family member

Sad to see supposed "conservatives" such as yourself who just don't get it. Or, are you? Are you a conservative?


119 posted on 12/23/2004 10:07:44 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: whereasandsoforth
"She's too ingnorant to serve the public. People elected her?"

No, Californians elected her!

120 posted on 12/23/2004 10:09:10 AM PST by Redbob
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