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To: Ernie.cal

My church will be impacted as they have to defend themselves from ACLU lawsuits for refusing to violate biblical teachings by refusing to perform same sex ceremonies. Some churches will embracy sodomy and run off faithful church members who find problems with homosexuality and abortion advocacy in church.

My society will be impacted as same sex couples push for adoption of children they might have been denied in the past. Those adults may consent to live in an alternative lifestyle but that child has rights too and they will be ignored so that a homosexual couple can have a kid. Decades later many of them will still be going through counselling.


310 posted on 12/23/2004 12:14:03 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee
My church will be impacted as they have to defend themselves from ACLU lawsuits for refusing to violate biblical teachings by refusing to perform same sex ceremonies. Some churches will embracy sodomy and run off faithful church members who find problems with homosexuality and abortion advocacy in church.

My society will be impacted as same sex couples push for adoption of children they might have been denied in the past. Those adults may consent to live in an alternative lifestyle but that child has rights too and they will be ignored so that a homosexual couple can have a kid. Decades later many of them will still be going through counselling.

Frankly, I don't think ACLU would be involved in such matters because the argument concerns what civil authority does, not religious institutions. In the history of the ACLU, can you tell me of any case where the ACLU has intervened when the dispute was entirely within a Church as opposed to a religious issue involving expenditure of public funds?

With respect to adoption: as I am sure you know, gay couples already have a track record with respect to raising children---both their own children or adopted children.

Perhaps you can contribute to this discussion by citing some studies which establish that gay parents are less likely to produce happy, well-adjusted, successful children and, instead, they produce troubled kids who require counselling? For example, can you cite any studies that show children raised by gay parents are more likely to drop out of school or use alcohol and drugs or engage in criminal activity, etc. etc?

Incidentally, just out of curiosity, does anyone have an explanation for why so many prominent families known for their conservative and Christian beliefs nonetheless have gay children? Some examples that spring into mind: Phyllis Schlafly's son, John Schmitz's son, Dick Cheney's daughter.

323 posted on 12/23/2004 12:49:36 PM PST by Ernie.cal
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To: weegee
My church will be impacted as they have to defend themselves from ACLU lawsuits for refusing to violate biblical teachings by refusing to perform same sex ceremonies.

Your church has no legal obligation to violate it's own beliefs. Never fear the ACLU Nazis. Contact the ACLJ at They specialize in this kind of thing and I believe their services are free of charge, but their resources are limited.
326 posted on 12/23/2004 12:51:59 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: weegee
My church will be impacted as they have to defend themselves from ACLU lawsuits for refusing to violate biblical teachings by refusing to perform same sex ceremonies.

Your church has no legal obligation to violate it's own beliefs. Never fear the ACLU Nazis. Contact the ACLJ at aclj.org They specialize in this kind of thing and I believe their services are free of charge, but their resources are limited.
327 posted on 12/23/2004 12:53:05 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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