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U.N. without shame
The Washington Times ^ | December 23, 2004 | Arnold Beichman

Posted on 12/23/2004 6:41:35 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA

Shouldn't President Bush be asking if it isn't time to dump the United Nations and to start anew? What kind of an organization is the United Nations whose General Assembly, with its automatic anti-Israel majority, devotes its time and finances (the United States pays almost a quarter of the U.N. budget) to badgering Israel, the only genuine democracy in the Middle East? What kind of organization is the U.N. Security Council in which a has-been like France is a permanent member but Germany, India and Japan are not? Does it make any sense to give French President Jacques Chirac, America-hater No. 1 and the best friend Saddam Hussein ever had, a veto over U.S. foreign policy to which fortunately we pay no attention? I wonder if Mr. Chirac plans to appear as a character witness at Saddam's upcoming trial. He should.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arnoldbeichman; changetheun; un; unitednations; uselessorganizations
Personally, I think the UN is beyond hope, and the US, Israel, and a few others (the UK, Australia for example), should depart from the UN and the US should kick the UN off American soil and tell it to go meet in Paris, Pyongyang, Teharan, Khartoum, Tripoli, or similar garden spots. Whatever the purpose, ideals, and usefulness of the UN was in 1945, it has long since strayed from them.
1 posted on 12/23/2004 6:41:35 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA
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To: yonif; Simcha7; Alouette; Salem; anotherview; American in Israel; West Coast Conservative; ...

UN needs to start all over from scratch PING!


2 posted on 12/23/2004 6:43:35 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
There's a new movie coming out, "Hotel Rwanda" with Nick Nolte and Don Cheadle. I heard part of an interview with Cheadle. He was critical about "The West" and how it ignores the problems in Africa. But aside from his generalization about "The West" he was specific in his criticism of the UN.

He pointed out that Africa is currently having serious problems in Darfur, Uganda and other places -- but the UN is debating whether "genocide" is taking place. Depending on how the discussion about term definitions go, the UN may decide to discuss taking some sort of action.

What a pathetic organization.

3 posted on 12/23/2004 6:52:39 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Seriously. They're not just irrelevant they're destructive.


4 posted on 12/23/2004 7:01:03 AM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Shouldn't President Bush be asking if it isn't time to dump the United Nations and to start anew?

Not with the same people.

5 posted on 12/23/2004 7:06:00 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

I am afraid that for Israel, going out of the UN would mean diplomatic sanctions, and our economy wont stand this.

However, I am totaly pro this idea.
As I have been saying for years: UN = Unwanted Nobodies (in the most gentle translation).


6 posted on 12/23/2004 7:26:02 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defence Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Or as I call them:

UN = Useless Nags


7 posted on 12/23/2004 7:27:08 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

October 21, 2001

The Nobel Peace Prize awarded this week to the United Nations and to its secretary-general, Kofi Annan, has accentuated the complex and painful relationship between the UN and Israel.

Although the organization has assumed a leading role in world politics in the attempt to achieve a basic world order, Israel has frequently suffered great disappointments from it. It is enough to recall the iniquitous resolution equating Zionism with racism, the series of anti-Israeli resolutions passed automatically every year, and the recent incompetent, infuriating handling by the UN of the matter of our three soldiers who were kidnapped on the Lebanese border, as well as the decision to include Syria in the Security Council.

Indeed, since November 29, 1947, the UN has afforded us far more moments of depression and disappointment than of satisfaction. However, Foreign Minister Shimon Peres was right when he referred to Annan as an honest person, greatly admired for the way in which he directs this complex and cumbersome organization and for the honesty of his efforts to achieve peace in our region.

And now, this very week, Annan and his colleagues will be faced by a real challenge that will clarify whether the organization will return to its former state of hypocrisy and double standards or whether it will maintain the apparently determined attitude it assumed in a series of resolutions passed against terrorism since the tragedy on September 11.

This week, the judicial committee of the UN will discuss the wording and practical implementation of a series of resolutions obligating the UN to combat terrorism. The hot potato on the committee's agenda is the definition of "terrorism."

In contrast to our understanding of terrorism that we have experienced daily for many years, in shops, restaurants, discotheques, roads, and everywhere imaginable, some of the Arab countries have now taken the initiative of judicially and practically differentiating between Palestinian terrorism and that of Osama bin Laden, with the justification that this is not terrorism but a fight for freedom.

"Resistance to occupation," it was called by the Syrian ambassador to the UN, the new member of the Security Council, thus justifying the action of the suicide bombers in the Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem and in the Dolphinarium discotheque in Tel Aviv. This is, without doubt, a foolish and infuriating form of discrimination.

In such circumstances one should see the public commitment of the new Nobel prizewinner, Annan, who defined the term "terrorism" in the UN General Assembly as "deliberately taking the lives of innocent people, unrelated to a reason or motive." In his opinion every act of this kind is terrorism. This, therefore, is Annan's great trial - will he succeed in applying his definition to all the UN resolutions against terror?

If he succeeds, this will lead to greater clarity and determination of the resolutions against terrorism and to a uniform international standard that will also apply to Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat and the PA.

It would be right to demand from Annan and his colleagues an even higher and more reasonable standard that would specify that a country belonging to the UN that calls for the destruction and disappearance of another country belonging to the organization would automatically be considered to be aiding terrorism, with all the consequent ramifications. In this way an honorable and significant front would be established against Iran, which openly and publicly calls for the destruction of Israel.

If Annan fails, however, the definition dissolves and the UN begins evasion and compromise when defining different kinds of standards for innocent people, the Nobel Prize will have failed to live up to its promise. David Ben-Gurion's immortal phrase, "Um [UN] shmum," will then appear more justified than ever. This is the new challenge facing Israeli diplomacy.




Ben Gurion was sure a great man!


8 posted on 12/23/2004 7:41:03 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defence Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Ben Gurion called 'em as he saw 'em! I think of him as a sort of Israeli President Truman. Truman was a plain talker. Not long after WW 2 was over, and the Bolsheviks were not keeping their areements regarding Poland, Bolshie Foreing Minister Molotov met with Truman. Truman, good Missouri Baptist that he was, started giving that Bolshie the riot act about the shenanigans in Poland. Molotov got all huffy, saying "I've never been talked to like that!" Not missing a beat, Truman snapped at the Bolshie SOB "keep your agreements and you won't get talked to like that!" BAM! Truman was probably the last good Democrat we had as President.


9 posted on 12/23/2004 7:50:38 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
MASTER LIST UN OIL/SEX FOR FOOD SCANDALS
10 posted on 12/23/2004 1:11:17 PM PST by GailA (Happy Birthday JESUS! Merry CHRISTmas FRiends.)
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