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Neocons vs. Rumsfeld
townhall.com ^ | 12/23/04 | Robert Novak

Posted on 12/22/2004 10:36:58 PM PST by kattracks

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To: MEG33

Did Brit use the appropriate sarcasm?

He's pretty good at it----would have loved to have seen it


21 posted on 12/22/2004 11:51:37 PM PST by fastattacksailor (Ted Kennedy: The Naval Hero of the Battle of Chappaquiddick!)
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To: okie01
Donald Rumsfeld? Or William Kristol?

I'm sorry; I just couldn't get past that one.

Go to war with a pansy? I think not.

I think Kristol is throwing in with McCain, hoping he'll finally get offered a job back at the White House.

He'll have to get it without my vote.

22 posted on 12/22/2004 11:52:15 PM PST by Howlin (Search, use it.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Hmmm... Kriston, Perle, Adelman... I wonder what these men have in common...

Near as I can tell, they're all Chickenhawk Neocons.

23 posted on 12/23/2004 12:07:11 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Merry CHRISTmas!!)
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To: Howlin
I think Kristol is throwing in with McCain, hoping he'll finally get offered a job back at the White House.

We're forgetting that PJB has been leading the call for a long time. The leopards are showing off their spots.

24 posted on 12/23/2004 12:10:49 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Merry CHRISTmas!!)
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To: kattracks
Was the change of regime in Baghdad worth going to war?

Yes .. he was aiding and abetting the terrorists

Could Saddam Hussein have been removed from power by other means?

After 12 years of fail UN policies .. my guess would be No

Is the use of U.S. military power to topple undemocratic regimes good policy?

We get control and take care of Iraq .. we have a pretty good chance of cleaning up the rest of the mess in the middle east

Take a look of a map of Iraq .. and then take a look at all the bordering countries

As for taking Iraq being a cake walk and the Iraqis thanking us??

Taking Iraq was a cake walk .. it's the terrorist coming from OTHER countries that is causing us the problems

And yes the Iraqis did wave the American Flag, throw flowers and thank our soldiers when they liberated them from a monster like Saddam ... And we have the pictures to prove it

As for Krystol ... He's just wearing in his knee pads for McCain getting Rummy's job

25 posted on 12/23/2004 12:11:23 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Howlin
I think Kristol is throwing in with McCain, hoping he'll finally get offered a job back at the White House.

Yep . he want's McCain to get Rummy's job

I don't trust McCain one bit

26 posted on 12/23/2004 12:15:56 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; NYC GOP Chick

Re: I wonder what these men have in common...

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm


27 posted on 12/23/2004 12:32:52 AM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; NYC GOP Chick

Dr. Jonathan Adelman is a Senior Fellow not Kenneth Adelman.


28 posted on 12/23/2004 12:37:23 AM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: fastattacksailor

He did use the appropriate sarcasm.


29 posted on 12/23/2004 12:43:40 AM PST by MEG33 (MERRY CHRISTMAS!.....GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: endthematrix
Yup, that organization is an amalgamation of Neocon Chickenhawks. They cannot be trusted. First and foremost, they were for the toppling of the Iraq regime, now they're wholly against the Iraq conflict altogether.

These guys are just a bunch of old farts hightailing it to the tall grass, not before endorsing yet another Chickenhawk, John McCain.

30 posted on 12/23/2004 12:44:54 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Merry CHRISTmas!!)
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To: fastattacksailor; MEG33

Wish I had seen it. The leer on Kristol's face must've been priceless.


31 posted on 12/23/2004 12:46:57 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Merry CHRISTmas!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I love Brit Hume..


32 posted on 12/23/2004 12:48:30 AM PST by MEG33 (MERRY CHRISTMAS!.....GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33

I do too...He knows how to smack 'em down off their high horses.


33 posted on 12/23/2004 12:50:39 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Merry CHRISTmas!!)
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To: Howlin
Rumsfeld's civilian colleagues at the Pentagon are furious because they consider Kristol a manipulative political operative, critiquing the war in Iraq after years of promoting it.This is an astute judgement by those in the Pentagon. I have a long list of things Kristol has done to manipulate people in Washington, including sabotaging Dan Quayle and (although I can't prove it) orchestrating the Jeffords defection.

I don't like Kristol, don't trust him (remember the "profound national humiliation " column attacking the President for negotiating the release of the spy plane crew?) and I think he is a total horse's rear.

34 posted on 12/23/2004 4:12:14 AM PST by Miss Marple
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He's not only a horse's "rear" - he's the main PIMP for McCain. Those 2 are making their move to put McCain in the White House. I heard Mark Levin sitting in for Hannity say if McCain had spent as much time on getting the military what they needed as he did on his worthless Campaign finance bill, our troops would be even more superior than they are now.


35 posted on 12/23/2004 5:11:09 AM PST by Elkiejg (Support our troops & our President)
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To: kattracks
neocons vs. neocoms.
36 posted on 12/23/2004 5:12:26 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I heard this #$%^*()_ running his mouth yesterday. Rummy is getting it done and he has a lot of Old Sarge in him. He beat down the bureaucrats in the Pentagon and guy kristol can't have his way. I'll bet he has never had one of America's uniforms on so what would he he know about running our Best of the Best. God Bless President Bush, VP Cheney, Rummy, and all of the Best of the Best who get the job done for America.


37 posted on 12/23/2004 5:34:10 AM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Hmmm... Kriston, Perle, Adelman... I wonder what these men have in common...

Don't start with the race baiting crap. Neoconservatism is a political philosiphy held by people across the racial and religious spectrum. They support a strong foreign policy, and are more liberal than most domestically, nothing more, nothing less.

38 posted on 12/23/2004 6:32:42 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: kattracks
William 'Bill' Kristol is an opportunistic, lying, two faced, back stabbing, McCain butt-boy MAGGOT. And those are his good points!

I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog -- and I don't HAVE a dog.
In short, that *%^$ turns my stomach.

39 posted on 12/23/2004 6:50:14 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Uh... I wouldn't 'go there'.
Your post could definitely be taken out of context.

That being said, I detest Kristol and Perle is one scary dude. He probably has more power than any unelected person in the world. Google 'Perle' and sit back and get ready to read about a lot of shady characters and some border line illegal dealings.

40 posted on 12/23/2004 6:55:33 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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