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The Case of the Ohio Recount (Grassy Knoll???)
The Village Voice ^ | December 21, 2004 | Rick Perlstein

Posted on 12/22/2004 3:38:21 PM PST by DBeers

The Case of the Ohio Recount

emphasis added The game is still afoot in Ohio.

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Meanwhile there have been the emotional hearings, led by ranking House Judiciary Committee member John Conyers, in which Ohio secretary of state and Bush-Cheney campaign co-chair Ken Blackwell was raked over the coals in absentia for answers to 36 questions about specific Election Day irregularities that Conyers posed to him in a now famous December 2 letter. The 36 questions are masticated endlessly in forums on democraticunderground.com —new outrages added each day, thousands of embittered idealists consuming the better part of their time in search of that elusive needle-in-haystack data point that will prove outright theft of the election. One lawyer, Cliff Arnebeck, even thinks he's found it, and has filed suit with the aim of kicking George W. Bush out of office.

It's possible that their vindication will come, that what's already being referred to as the "vote fraud community"—the allusion is to the "JFK assassination research community"—won't disappear up its very own grassy knoll. But the charges producing the greatest heat online often turn out to have the most innocent explanations. The recount isn't amounting to much, either. Last week the Franklin County Board of Elections did discover one extra vote for Kerry—offset by the extra vote they found for Bush. The irregularities volunteers have pointed to in the recount process itself are often picayune.

In many Americans' minds, it's not too hard to imagine, this will all be received as further evidence of the activist left's irrelevance.

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(Excerpt) Read more at villagevoice.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: perlstein; recount
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-ohhh the horrrorrrrrr!
1 posted on 12/22/2004 3:38:21 PM PST by DBeers
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To: DBeers

Let me guess, right after Ohio the Democrats will be looking into all that real funny business in WA...right?


2 posted on 12/22/2004 3:43:00 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: DBeers

This is so bizarre, do any of these loco-weeds think this through? In the incredibly remote chance that any of this has any merit, what are the chances of some judge ordering the POTUS to step down? Do they have any clue how insane they sound? Do they know that that type judicial chicanery could touch off a real shooting war? They need to be comitted to a mental institution.


3 posted on 12/22/2004 3:44:22 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: DBeers
Ken Blackwell was raked over the coals in absentia

Gotta love Conyers. A real DUmbass is he.

Wonder when the DUmmies will wake up and realize that this is all staged for their benefit?

4 posted on 12/22/2004 3:48:19 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Wood?)
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To: DBeers

Al Gore, the inventor of the internet, also introduced what is now practiced regularly:
Goring of elections.


5 posted on 12/22/2004 3:49:23 PM PST by hermgem
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To: dead
Perlstein ping.

Village Voice lends credibility to the kooks.

6 posted on 12/22/2004 3:54:03 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: DBeers
that what's already being referred to as the "vote fraud community"

There's a whole group over at DUmmies that make me wish for YK2 conspiracies again.

The frothing and foaming at the mouth over there is funny, but also sad and disturbing at the same time.

As much as we ranted and raved about the Clinton during his eight year crime spree, these guys make us look like rank amateurs in their weird world of black boxes and discombobulated thinking

They are truly psychotic and beyond reasoning

In other words Liberals

7 posted on 12/22/2004 4:06:13 PM PST by Popman
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To: DBeers

The Voice wrote this??

Okay, who hacked the site. 'Fess up!


8 posted on 12/22/2004 4:09:56 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: Brett66
It's absolute nonsense.

The judiciary has no jurisdiction to order a sitting president out of anything.

Heck, if it did, then you really wouldn't need a POTUS at all, just the SCOTUS.

Fortunately, the Constitution vests that power in congress.
Let's see, which party controls both houses?

He needs to study Andrew Jackson to see where that would lead.
"The court has made a decision. Now let's see them enforce it."

The guy is in fantasy land if he thinks that would go anywhere in court.
As a matter of fact, he would have to be stupid, and since I don't think that he is, then this is all another agenda. - Look at my tagline..

9 posted on 12/22/2004 4:10:07 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Popman
>As much as we ranted and raved about the Clinton during his eight year crime spree, these guys make us look like rank amateurs in their weird world of black boxes and discombobulated thinking

Oh, they sure do, but the things that we raved about were real.
What they are ranting about is not even reality, and to me, that is outright delusional.
10 posted on 12/22/2004 4:15:33 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Popman
The frothing and foaming at the mouth over there is funny, but also sad and disturbing at the same time.

yes -the scary part is 'they' are among us -teaching in schools and universities, working the social and psychological organizations, hugging trees, drinking wine, eating cheese, incessantly recounting, and reveling in their depraved glass half empty repugnant madness!!!!!

11 posted on 12/22/2004 4:38:33 PM PST by DBeers
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To: Brett66
This is so bizarre, do any of these loco-weeds think this through? In the incredibly remote chance that any of this has any merit, what are the chances of some judge ordering the POTUS to step down? Do they have any clue how insane they sound? Do they know that that type judicial chicanery could touch off a real shooting war? They need to be comitted to a mental institution.

Even if they got some way-out-there left-wing judge or court to order Bush to be removed, it wouldn't be binding. This is out of their jurisdiction, and the WH/Congress could just ignore the 'order'. Only Congress has the power to effect a removal.

These deluded far-lefties are so unbelievable in what they think/are willing to believe that they should be committed to an institution for their own good, or at the very least, they should get some psychiatric help. But of course that'll never happen since they don't think anything's wrong with them, something's wrong with everyone else. They remind me exactly of the proverbial "crazy aunt"--I literally do have one of those.

13 posted on 12/22/2004 5:12:52 PM PST by gop_gene
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To: bill1952
Oh, they sure do, but the things that we raved about were real.

There were over the top type stuff posted every day in at FR. Some of it was pretty outrageous.

But you are right,the biggest difference is we were hyper ventilating about some very tangible issues, treasonous Chinese connection, perjury, lying to the people, Travelgate, Whitewater, pardons, etc, etc, etc.

They have black box voting machines pre - programmed to steal the election to subvert the USA to a Theocracy to put liberals in death camps.

14 posted on 12/22/2004 6:15:31 PM PST by Popman
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Re-Ohio Decount

Cliff Arnebeck, esq. is totally biased and completely illogical. His "case" has no chance. The reason democratic Supreme Court candidate, C. Ellen Connally (a black) won more votes than Kerry in some rural southern Ohio counties is easy to understand. The Connally over Kerry vote advantage correlates nicely with he total percentage of Kerry votes in each Ohio county -- i.e., the smaller the Kerry total precentage (vs. Bush) the bigger the Connally margin over Kerry. The democrats in those conservative counties just did not like Kerry (imagine that!) and they "split their ticket" -- end of story. Kerry lost, Bush won --which part of that don't the left wing goof balls understand?

No one in Ohio is paying any attention to this nonsense.
fargo44
Cincinnati, Ohio


15 posted on 12/22/2004 6:26:06 PM PST by Fargo44 (Sure! I'll vote Democratic when they pry my cold dead fingers off the GOP lever.)
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To: DBeers

16 posted on 12/22/2004 6:27:06 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: DBeers
DBears,

Actually, if you take some time and read their posts, most of the DUmmies give little hints about their lives. I think most of them are teenagers or very early 20s, many are students and almost all of them have no money or regular sources of income.

A really great thread appeared today or yesterday asking the DUmmies what kind of service they do for their fellow man. 95% of them recited their work on the late campaign. Typical of liberals, they complain that people don't care but not many of them are volunteers in any of the many things that need to be done.

Tom (proud to serve my community as a volunteer firefighter)

yes -the scary part is 'they' are among us -teaching in schools and universities, working the social and psychological organizations, hugging trees, drinking wine, eating cheese, incessantly recounting, and reveling in their depraved glass half empty repugnant madness!!!!!

17 posted on 12/22/2004 6:27:10 PM PST by fatboy
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To: Perdogg

Love your tag. Gotta go work on something.


18 posted on 12/22/2004 6:29:50 PM PST by ExGeeEye (It's a fine vintage whine, with a petulant bouquet and tart aftertaste.)
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To: fatboy
Actually, if you take some time and read their posts, most of the DUmmies give little hints about their lives. I think most of them are teenagers or very early 20s, many are students and almost all of them have no money or regular sources of income.

-spend more time -you missed some including the homosexual professionals, lesbian blue collars, lost in the sixties rejects, educated elites, and hate the world loser types ...

19 posted on 12/22/2004 7:36:12 PM PST by DBeers
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To: DBeers

"Actually, if you take some time and read their posts, most of the DUmmies give little hints about their lives. I think most of them are teenagers or very early 20s, many are students and almost all of them have no money or regular sources of income."

Or, they're burned-out, brain-fried, relics from the 60's.


20 posted on 12/23/2004 9:17:34 AM PST by Signalman
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