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U-M study: Why men are attracted to subordinate women
University of Michigan News Service ^ | Dec. 8, 2004 | U Mich

Posted on 12/21/2004 3:59:39 PM PST by beavus

ANN ARBOR, Mich.—Men are more likely to want to marry women who are their assistants at work rather than their colleagues or bosses, a University of Michigan study finds.

The study, published in the current issue of Evolution and Human Behavior, highlights the importance of relational dominance in mate selection and discusses the evolutionary utility of male concerns about mating with dominant females.

"These findings provide empirical support for the widespread belief that powerful women are at a disadvantage in the marriage market because men may prefer to marry less accomplished women," said Stephanie Brown, lead author of the study and a social psychologist at the U-M Institute for Social Research (ISR).

For the study, supported in part by a grant from the National Institute of Mental Health, Brown and co-author Brian Lewis from UCLA tested 120 male and 208 female undergraduates by asking them to rate their attraction and desire to affiliate with a man and a woman they were said to know from work.

"Imagine that you have just taken a job and that Jennifer (or John) is your immediate supervisor (or your peer, or your assistant)," study participants were told as they were shown a photo of a male or a female.

After seeing the photo and hearing the description of the person's role at work in relation to their own, participants were asked to use a 9-point Likert scale (1 is not at all, 9 is very much) to rate the extent to which they would enjoy going to a party with Jennifer or John, exercising with the person, dating the person and marrying the person.

Brown and Lewis found that males, but not females, were most strongly attracted to subordinate partners for high-investment activities such as marriage and dating.

"Our results demonstrate that male preference for subordinate women increases as the investment in the relationship increases," Brown said. "This pattern is consistent with the possibility that there were reproductive advantages for males who preferred to form long-term relationships with relatively subordinate partners.

"Given that female infidelity is a severe reproductive threat to males only when investment is high, a preference for subordinate partners may provide adaptive benefits to males in the context of only long-term, investing relationships---not one-night stands."

According to Brown, who is affiliated with the ISR Evolution and Human Adaptation Program, the current findings are consistent with earlier research showing that expressions of vulnerability enhance female attractiveness. "Our results also provide further explanation for why males might attend to dominance-linked characteristics of women such as relative age or income, and why adult males typically prefer partners who are younger and make less money."

For more information on the ISR Evolution and Human Adaptation Program, visit: http://rcgd.isr.umich.edu/ehap/


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To: GSlob
Or a kerry.

That is out of the question. So we are back to the first option. :-)

421 posted on 12/27/2004 2:18:02 PM PST by njwoman
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To: beavus

There are two things that will make a man more attractive to females: drug use and prison time.


422 posted on 12/27/2004 2:18:06 PM PST by ryanjb2
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To: njwoman
Success, just like beauty, is a perception and not a fact :)
423 posted on 12/27/2004 2:20:59 PM PST by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Quinotto
Success, just like beauty, is a perception and not a fact :)

Absolutely. The definition of success is subjective rather than objective which supports my previous points. Thank you for reinforcement!

424 posted on 12/27/2004 2:25:15 PM PST by njwoman
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To: njwoman
You are right; technically speaking, one does not have to search for kerries, for it is they who normally do the searching.
425 posted on 12/27/2004 2:34:01 PM PST by GSlob
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To: njwoman
Don't let the lil' boys take you down, personally I believe that most men are scared of a strong woman because of stereotyping (eg: feminist). A powerful woman is attractive, as long as she's not their wife, fiancee or girlfriend. Condi, Michelle Malkin, Anne Coulter are considered Republican babes simply because they represent no direct risk. What most men don't understand is that what really makes a man who he is, IS the ability to look at the woman across from them as their partner, celebrate their success and eager to be Mr. Mom if it's more viable this way. A man's strength lays not in his ability to be the "master of his domain" but in his ability to do whatever it takes, along with his partner, to create a happy life for them and their family. My idea of feminism is more an idea of independence, self-reliability and I would expect that a man would be more at ease knowing that if something would happen to him, God forbid, his partner can step in and carry on in behalf of their family, their life and HIS legacy. If a man prefers to get a subservient wife, he's better off to get a dog, it's a lot cheaper and he doesn't need to put the toilet seat back down. :)
426 posted on 12/27/2004 2:37:41 PM PST by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: USMCVet
"Did you get permission before you sent your response?"

Of course I did! You think I'm crazy or something?

427 posted on 12/27/2004 3:43:59 PM PST by DaGman
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To: RaceBannon
That is why men want to marry a woman who is not as established as he is: He wants to be the leader and provider in the family.

If he has any male genes in him anyways.

Exactly.

428 posted on 12/27/2004 3:48:34 PM PST by MarIboro
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To: Quinotto; F16Fighter
What most men don't understand is that what really makes a man who he is, IS the ability to look at the woman across from them as their partner,

And at that point, 'who he is' is a big ol' P*$$y

Partner? Partner!? I don't want to marry another man, pard'ner....

If I simply look at her as 'partner', what does she see me as?

When I was a kid, I never wanted to grow up and be a 'partner'. Did you? Did anyone?

I don't even want to know what kind of Orwellian, 2+2=5, mental gymnastics it takes to destroy the image of 'wife' and replace it in my mind with 'partner'....

How much re-education and Marxist self criticism did it take you to come to this point?

429 posted on 12/27/2004 5:16:06 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: Quinotto
We say yes when we mean yes and no when we mean no, and all else comes from the evil one.

But we say 'partner' when we mean 'wife'?

430 posted on 12/27/2004 5:18:21 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: njwoman

Youi've just made infidel29's point.

Sorry, but you walked straight ahead, dead-on into that one.


431 posted on 12/27/2004 5:25:42 PM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Quinotto
Your argument is concise and accurate.

Don't let the lil' boys take you down

Those attempts failed miserably. You will probably have the lil' boys posting messages to you :-)

If a man prefers to get a subservient wife, he's better off to get a dog, it's a lot cheaper and he doesn't need to put the toilet seat back down. :),

LOL!

If a man prefers to get a subservient wife, as it was suggested earlier on this thread, a man could also get a maid as an alternative. How about the dog AND the maid? :-)

432 posted on 12/27/2004 5:31:48 PM PST by njwoman
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To: njwoman
How about the dog AND the maid?

They would certainly be better for a family than a 'partner' or career wife.

The kids would like the dog more anyhow, and the maid will read to your kids while you are at work.

The maid will probably see your kid's first steps.

Won't that be great?

433 posted on 12/27/2004 5:37:16 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: beavus

Believe me.I was once married to a battleax that thought she could verbally abuse me and wear the pants in the family which is non Biblical. I told her where to go. I am now single and have fully joint possession of my two angel boys.

"Deliver us from evil"...and that is what He did.


434 posted on 12/27/2004 5:38:33 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
They would certainly be better for a family than a 'partner'

That is your preference. Obviously, it is quite difficult for some people to view their spouses as partners.

435 posted on 12/27/2004 5:44:25 PM PST by njwoman
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To: Cogadh na Sith
Partner? Partner!? I don't want to marry another man, pard'ner....
I wonder why such bruised ego if you think that your wife must be a weakling instead someone as strong as you think you must be, right there, by your side. I hope she sees you as her partner too, I hope she sees you as the man she can turn to without fear of being mocked, criticized, I hope she turns to you knowing you respect her, appreciate her and I hope she turns to you with you knowing that you mean to each other the whole world. And that you'll be there for each other no matter what, where divorce is not the way out.
436 posted on 12/27/2004 5:45:02 PM PST by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: njwoman

Dog's still cheaper :) Just the yearly shots, food, toys and a spiked collar.


437 posted on 12/27/2004 5:46:34 PM PST by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Indie
Abuse is not good, no matter where it comes from and the form it takes. And many blessings to you and to your wonderful children, may they grow healthy and happy. :)
438 posted on 12/27/2004 5:48:41 PM PST by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Quinotto
Dog's still cheaper :) Just the yearly shots, food, toys and a spiked collar.

Ha ha ha!

The dog will also not ask for the pay increase. :-)

439 posted on 12/27/2004 5:52:34 PM PST by njwoman
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To: beavus

More tax dollars wasted on a bogus experiment designed to arrive at a bull sh*t conclusion. A real man wants a woman at least as strong as himself, for the sake of the children. Who wants submissive, loser genes passed on to one's children?


440 posted on 12/27/2004 6:06:37 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (I resolve for 2005, to live my life as I would be if I had kept all my previous resolutions.)
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