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"SHOP AT TARGET -- THEY SUPPORT LGBTQ FAMILIES" (Heads up Barf Alert)
Rainbow Law ^ | 12/21/04 | Rainbow Law

Posted on 12/21/2004 9:55:35 AM PST by St. Johann Tetzel

SHOP AT TARGET -- THEY SUPPORT LGBTQ FAMILIES

Rainbow Law is calling for the LGBTQ community to support and shop at Target stores this holiday season. After Target refused to allow the Salvation Army to place bell-ringers and kettles at their stores (because they discriminate against the LGBTQ community), the anti-gay equality crusaders began their usual lies and propaganda campaign.

There is no reason to let this attack go unchallenged. We have the power to counter the far right's relentless assault on our civil rights and liberties. And one of the most effective methods for defeating unfair practices is by using the power of our combined financial resources.

Why would you continue to support companies who donate millions of dollars to campaigns and politicians who are hell-bent on destroying your family?

Rainbow Law has compiled a detailed list of the companies that contributed money in support of campaigns and candidates who oppose equal marriage rights and we are calling for a general boycott of these companies. [FReepers take note: please support these companies to counteract any pressure the LGBT might bring!]

To win the election at any cost, political campaigns lied about Gay and Lesbian Families and they lied about what Equal Marriage really means. Because of those lies, eleven state constitutional amendments banning equal marriage rights passed.

And the opposition was successful in spreading the lies via the media. That is why Rainbow Law also suggests that we find an alternative to mainstream newspapers, television and radio stations. Especially Clear Channel Communications and Fox Television -- two media giants with a proven right-wing bias and agenda.

For an alternative perspective, turn the channel -- listen to and support your local public broadcasting stations. Watch your Public Broadcasting station for the news. Listen to National Public Radio and Air America Radio and read newspapers and magazines like Rainbow Law's Un-Censored E-Zine.

In addition to supporting Target Corporation for their courage to stand up to injustice, we hope you will think queer as you make any purchase.

Instead of spending money at straight-owned enterprises, purchase products from queer owned or queer friendly merchants. When you are in the market for a new home, car, insurance, etc, support people who support your family. If you need help at work or at home, hire queer people to do things.

In the past, boycotts have been used successfully to pressure corporate supporters of bigoted politicians into withdrawing their financial contributions.

Together we have the power to make a difference!


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To: Manic_Episode
I believe your favorable opinion of Target is based on buying into the party line, or, belief that all Target says is true.

Untrue. My opinion (at least in this instance) of Target is neither favorable nor unfavorable. I don't like their decision-- I only understand it. My opinion is based on experience with firms like Target and keeping up with the way the Left operates.

I saw a post on a thread about a month ago where a freeper was citing case law that invalidated Targets supposed legally had to excuse. I believe the post was directed to you but went without response, as I remember.

I must've missed it, or I most likely would have answered. I'll search through my posts. I hope that's true-- not that I enjoy an exaulted position here, but I can try to determine if they're aware of said decisions

On a semi-related note, my brother just brought to my attention that Mervyns made a similar decision, but recently reversed itself. Does anyone have any information on that?

if upper management is anything like the lower management I deal with (I work for Target too) they are completely FOS and use false pretenses regularly.

There are people in every organization like that-- maybe I've just been lucky here and elsewhere. That hasn't been my experience here yet. It certainly could be true, I just prefer not to damn people before I know.

321 posted on 12/22/2004 12:52:29 PM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
But its more than enough to raise the evidence at hand from "suspicions, innuendo and supposition" to firm (if not yet verified) circumstantial evidence, no? In no way however does it indict Target of being in bed with the sodomites.

Not sure I agree that the evidence is firm-- but I actually agree with the underlying premise that Target caved.

My argument (with some) is given that Target caved, does it rise to the level of requiring a boycott or not. I believe no, for two reasons:

  1. I don't see them as having a financially-viable option
  2. I don't see a boycott as being an effective means of counterracting Target's "misbehavior"
On the other hand, if they were "in bed with the sodomites", as O.C. contends, I would have no problem boycotting them-- in fact, my dogma (Mr. O.C.) would demand nothing less.
322 posted on 12/22/2004 12:59:52 PM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: shubi

What difference does that make?

There are plenty of things the government funds, abortion for one, that are illegal by definition of not being 'provided for' in the Constitution.

Now are you with me for Un-Funding the CPB or not?


323 posted on 12/22/2004 1:05:20 PM PST by OriginalChristian (Christians are being PERSECUTED. It has only just begun...)
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To: Egon

Doh!
I found the thread I had in mind and you were not involved.
My apologies.
Here is the post with the case law:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1284111/posts?page=47#34


324 posted on 12/22/2004 1:07:42 PM PST by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
The words 'tolerance' and 'kneejerk' are lost on me. And I won't debate with appeasers and excusers of immoral behavior. The Left is always on the lookout for simpering baby boomers like yourself.

I don't think much of what I've seen from you on this thread to this point could be seriously considered "debate"...

Oh, I can see you revisited my homepage...but of course all you took from it was ammo for name-calling and more assumptions.

Since you've dubbed me a baby-boomer, apparently you've got the age-bias problem, as well.

Your inflammatory style is one of the biggest reasons the Left are hard to win over; ever think about that? If your reason amounts to nothing more logical than theirs, what do they gain from you?

Perhaps you learned your techniques from the Left: they're great at ignoring facts, sidestepping the real issues, jumping to conclusions, using emotional trigger-words and name-calling. In fact, some of the worst conservatives I've met are ex-Leftists who never got the whole picture of the differences between the Right and the Left.

Would that be you?

325 posted on 12/22/2004 1:08:49 PM PST by Orgiveme (Give me liberty orgiveme death!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
"Doctor???" (Buckaroo Bonzai to Prof. Emilio Lizardo in that "silly movie for smart people")...

I guess most people don't need to be graced with the title of "Doctor" to call other people fools, but I don't make a habit of that.

You asked what I do, I answered. For that you continue the ad hominems. Hmmm...

Name the ad hominems if you can, and then trace their origin if you will.

326 posted on 12/22/2004 1:15:01 PM PST by Orgiveme (Give me liberty orgiveme death!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel; stevio; shubi; YOUGOTIT; ariamne; weegee
Well, yeah, if you consider Minnesota part of France.
327 posted on 12/22/2004 1:18:52 PM PST by Xenalyte (Surf's up, space ponies! I'm making gravy without the lumps!)
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To: SuziQ

If there's a lamer, more stupid piece of linguistic jokedom alive than "Tar-zhay," I can't think of it. Move ON, people! Think up something original!

I shall now excoriate those who call J.C. Penney "Jacques Pennay." Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid.


328 posted on 12/22/2004 1:19:42 PM PST by Xenalyte (Surf's up, space ponies! I'm making gravy without the lumps!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
That Target is in bed with the sodomites is unsubstantiated. That Target caved to pressure from the sodomites is a logical and reasonable conclusion given the articles in the World Net Daily and AgapePress links provided, as well as the article that started this thread.

I read both of those.

With all due respect sir...World Net Daily would tell me that I should be incarcerated for letting my kids read the Harry Potter books. I, along with many sane individuals on this forum, would not consider WND as an informative source regarding social issues...they fly off the handle way too much.

The premise of the Agape article rests on the notion of:

"Pro-family groups based in Washington, DC, and in Illinois say homosexuals are behind a new policy at Target stores that has resulted in banning Salvation Army kettle drive activities on the retail chain's premises nationwide."

There are no hard facts to back that up...only what Pro-family groups based in Washington, DC, and in Illinois say. I can say that Wayne Newton is the anti-Christ...it doesn't mean that its true.

If homosexual groups were so bent on Target's support of the Salvation Army, why haven't we seen or heard of fag protests over this issue before? This link Link spells out Targets policy. I'm thinking this is more of a scenario of gay and lez groups saying "If you let the SA be in front of your store this Christmas (making an exception to your policy)...we will sue for discrimination and make sure that NAMBLA solicits in front of your store along with a host of others." So either follow through with your policy to the letter...or suffer the consequences. Jesse Jackson is real good at this. Target, probably not wanting to deal with all that...followed thru with its policy to the letter...akin to the "one jerk ruins it for the rest of us" phenomena. I see it as that...not pandering to the G&L lobby.

329 posted on 12/22/2004 1:20:02 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Dead Dog

It should also be noted that Target donates a percentage - 5% I think - of each purchase made using a Target card or their Target Visa card to the school of the shoppers choice (public or private). What other retailer does that?

BTW - Target is owned by Dayton-Hudson


330 posted on 12/22/2004 1:22:54 PM PST by Cyclone59 (If you can read this thank a teacher... since it's in English, thank an American Soldier!)
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To: Manic_Episode
Excellent thread. Thanks!

He came up with one case law that he thinks may be on point where the store wasn't required to allow Hari Krishnas to...do whatever it is that they do.

That's more promising than I was thinking, but still a helluva thing to bank your corporation's future on.

331 posted on 12/22/2004 1:24:01 PM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: Barney59

>"are hell-bent on destroying your family? "

You can't destroy what is not there..


332 posted on 12/22/2004 1:25:29 PM PST by b2stealth
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To: Cyclone59
BTW - Target is owned by Dayton-Hudson

No longer true. There is no such entity anymore. Target owns Target.

333 posted on 12/22/2004 1:27:22 PM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: Egon

Thanks - I had no idea!


334 posted on 12/22/2004 1:37:14 PM PST by Cyclone59 (If you can read this thank a teacher... since it's in English, thank an American Soldier!)
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To: Orgiveme
You asked what I do, I answered.

No, Doctor, you didn't. You stated in answer to my question "Where are you employed?" that you are "self" employed, to which I responded that you should list to whom you are accountable in both directions financially, in your tagline. You have not answered that except to reply that you have a doctorate. That tells us nothing about your biases financially -- which would be totally acceptable if you weren't demanding that of another (who has ALREADY volunteered it).

335 posted on 12/22/2004 1:37:59 PM PST by Orgiveme (Give me liberty orgiveme death!)
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To: Orgiveme
It's not worth the effort.

The good Doctor is apparently reticent to hold himself to the same standard he expects of others.

I find it ironic that this same, morally superior doctor was the first (and only) person advocating my censoring myself from a public and free forum because of bias that I freely acknowledged-- nay, volunteered.

This same doctor employed the often practiced, but rarely successful "No sh!t, Sherlock" debating tactic, second only to O.C.'s "troll" approach in it's intellectual luminescence and effectiveness.

At this point, I'm no longer interested in his self-employment or his "doctorate". The subject of his bias now bores me.

336 posted on 12/22/2004 1:47:32 PM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: Cyclone59
Thanks - I had no idea!

No problem.

In the in interests of full-disclosure, though, please read the disclaimer on my homepage. I wouldn't want to mislead anyone new to the thread!

337 posted on 12/22/2004 1:53:30 PM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: Egon
At this point, I'm no longer interested in his self-employment or his "doctorate". The subject of his bias now bores me.

I'm coming to the same conclusion.

338 posted on 12/22/2004 2:00:14 PM PST by Orgiveme (Give me liberty orgiveme death!)
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To: Orgiveme

I have no interest in winning over the Left.


339 posted on 12/22/2004 2:03:28 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: OriginalChristian

Not only the CPB but just about every agency except anything to do with national defense. ;-)


340 posted on 12/22/2004 2:05:43 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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