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DOJ Memo: 2nd Amendment is Individual Right
CNSNews ^ | Dec 21, 2004 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 12/21/2004 6:32:49 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

The U.S. Department of Justice has declared that the Second Amendment explicitly recognizes the right of individual Americans to own and carry firearms. Gun rights advocates call the statement a "good first step" but cautioned that it is not the end of the gun control debate.

The "Memorandum Opinion for the Attorney General" released on the Internet last week is entitled "Whether the Second Amendment Secures an Individual Right."

The 103 page report, with 437 footnotes, concluded that, "... the Second Amendment secures a personal right of individuals, not a collective right that may only be invoked by a State or a quasi-collective right restricted to those persons who serve in organized militia units."

That conclusion is based, according to the authors, "... on the Amendment's text, as commonly understood at the time of its adoption and interpreted in light of other provisions of the Constitution and the Amendment's historical antecedents."

The Aug. 24 memorandum stated that it did not consider the "substance" of the individual right to own and carry firearms or the legitimacy of government attempts to limit the right. The document also declared that the authors were not calling into question the constitutionality of any particular limitations on owning, carrying or using firearms.

Joe Waldron, executive of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA), told Cybercast News Service that the memorandum is "a good start, a good first step.

"What this does," Waldron explained, "is it puts the federal government -- the U.S. Justice Department -- which is the nation's chief law enforcement agency, on record as recognizing that the Second Amendment, without question, is intended to apply to individuals and not to collective organizations such as the National Guard or any kind of lesser militia."

The memo does not protect individuals from being prosecuted under existing gun laws, Waldron acknowledged, but he said it does require a fundamental change in how the government approaches those cases.

"It changes the courts' view of the issue and it applies a stricter standard of scrutiny as to whether or not a given law does infringe on an individual's constitutional rights," Waldron said. "They have to look at it from a civil rights perspective now instead of just [whether] the individual violated a given law."

The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence did not return calls seeking comment on the Justice Department's determination, but the organization has spoken out against the "individual rights" interpretation of the Second Amendment frequently in the past, including in an amicus brief filed in federal court in 1999.

"The fact that militia members are no longer required to supply their own arms when reporting for service has depleted the Second Amendment of most of its vitality," the Brady Center stated. "And, in fact, the Second Amendment remains relevant today because the rights it protects are held by the National Guard."

Dennis Henigan, director of the Brady Center's Legal Action Project, also spoke against the "individual rights" interpretation of the Second Amendment at James Madison University in 2002.

"Both the language and history of the Second Amendment show that its subject matter was not individual rights," Henigan said, "but rather the distribution of military power in society between the states and the federal government."

The Brady Center's argument was rejected by the Justice Department.

"A 'right of the people' is ordinarily and most naturally a right of individuals, not of a State and not merely of those serving the State as militiamen. The phrase 'keep arms' at the time of the Founding usually indicated the private ownership and retention of arms by individuals as individuals, not the stockpiling of arms by a government or its soldiers, and the phrase certainly had that meaning when used in connection with a 'right of the people,'" the Justice Department report stated.

"Moreover, the Second Amendment appears in the Bill of Rights amid amendments securing numerous individual rights, a placement that makes it likely that the right of the people to keep and bear arms likewise belongs to individuals," the document continued.

Waldron expects the opinion to be introduced in support of the "individual rights" of gun owners in several cases currently working their way through the federal courts. His hope is that one of those cases will reach the Supreme Court.

"Is this the end, is this the Omega? Absolutely not," Waldron said. "The Omega will come when the Supreme Court begins to overturn selected gun control laws based on the fact that they do infringe upon the individual right protected in the Constitution."


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To: phasma proeliator

oops.. double tap.


21 posted on 12/21/2004 7:23:39 AM PST by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Bump and thanks for posting


22 posted on 12/21/2004 7:28:09 AM PST by two23
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To: VRWCmember
Using very basic reading comprehension skills, the only reasonable conclusion one can draw from these two sentences is that Dennis Henigan is either (1) a complete idiot, or (2) a despicable liar.

I vote for #2, because they have an agenda that wishes all Americans be reduced to unarmed peasants, fully dependent on Uncle Sugar and unable to revolt.

23 posted on 12/21/2004 7:29:20 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; Travis McGee; 4integrity; ...

Sweet!


24 posted on 12/21/2004 7:31:28 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: susiek
Not to nitpick, but since this issue is incredibly important to our future liberty, we should get the punctuation correct:

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

There is only one comma in the 2nd Amendment as originally written, not three.

FRegards,

Hat-Trick

25 posted on 12/21/2004 7:38:23 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: newgeezer
True, although consider the new panel to be installed, the time factor of not only them but "our" Congress, as well as the attitudinal change in the general public. In the end, after truth has conquered, this ain't going to be no easy nut to crack.

Maybe we could mail our empty shells to Lurch.

26 posted on 12/21/2004 7:38:32 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: OXENinFLA; Joe Brower; Ancesthntr; aragorn; archy; Badray; Jack Black; meadsjn; Grampa Dave; ...
It's progress!


27 posted on 12/21/2004 7:47:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: OSHA

bttt


28 posted on 12/21/2004 7:50:17 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Hat-Trick

"There is only one comma in the 2nd Amendment as originally written, not three."

I did a cut and paste directly out of Westlaw. If all the lawyers and others researching the law in this country have an incorrectly punctuated version of the amendment offered to them by a main legal research resource, no wonder some people are confused about the meaning of "the right of the people!"


29 posted on 12/21/2004 7:50:42 AM PST by susiek
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To: Hat-Trick

According to the AG report, the punctuation is significant.


30 posted on 12/21/2004 7:51:07 AM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Unless the Bush administration translates this into action, it's meaningless. So far, they've taken the position that while RKBA is an individual right, no existing law - including the prohibition of firearms in the District of Columbia - infringes on the 'reasonable' regulation of that right.

In other words, this is just so much shuck and jive.

31 posted on 12/21/2004 7:51:08 AM PST by Grut
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To: susiek

The AG report quotes 2nd Amendment as follows:

The Second Amendment of the Constitution provides: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

with 3 commas.


32 posted on 12/21/2004 7:54:21 AM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: RBroadfoot

They probably got the text off of Westlaw or out of a West-published book, too. I would imagine that if West has three commas, almost everyone uses three commas. I wonder where the one comma version can be found? HatTrick, you're the one who reported that the original text had only one comma--where'd you get that version?


33 posted on 12/21/2004 7:57:03 AM PST by susiek
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
""Both the language and history of the Second Amendment show that its subject matter was not individual rights," Henigan said, "but rather the distribution of military power in society between the states and the federal government.""

Hmmm.

He is either a stupid SOB or he is a lying POS SOB. I'm not sure that it matters much which one it is as his opinions are totally worthless either way.

34 posted on 12/21/2004 7:58:02 AM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: VRWCmember

Great minds think alike. I just read it and came to the exact conclusion that you did.


35 posted on 12/21/2004 8:00:38 AM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: RBroadfoot

Open in an editor. Zoom in. Looks like three comma's to me.

Here's a hi-res in color pdf version. Click Here.

36 posted on 12/21/2004 8:02:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Hat-Trick
Please see post #36. There were several copies penned at the time and sent to the various States for ratification. If there were grammatical errors, then our Constitution is "technically" void. According to our laws, all legislation submitted like this must be identical.

This isn't a "deal breaker" IMO, but I'm positive there are scum sucking lawyers and opportunist politicians that would try to exploit it.

37 posted on 12/21/2004 8:07:30 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Dead Corpse; susiek

I stand corrected, after looking at the posted image - there are definitely three commas. I cut and pasted from www.billofrights.org.


38 posted on 12/21/2004 8:54:12 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...
More good RKBA news to brighten you day. $:-)

Just a few years ago, when we were fighting tooth and nail against the myriad and unrelenting attacks by the Clinton adminstration, who would have thought we'd ever be seeing anything like this from the FedGov?

All a matter of keeping the right folks at the helm.

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Click the pic to go to the Gun Facts v4.0 download page!

39 posted on 12/21/2004 8:55:53 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Jake Reno must be shaking in overdrive after reading this.


40 posted on 12/21/2004 8:59:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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