DOJ Memo: 2nd Amendment is Individual Right

CNSNews ^ | Dec 21, 2004 | Jeff Johnson

[phasma proeliator]

oops.. double tap.

[two23]

Bump and thanks for posting

[Hat-Trick]

Using very basic reading comprehension skills, the only reasonable conclusion one can draw from these two sentences is that Dennis Henigan is either (1) a complete idiot, or (2) a despicable liar.

I vote for #2, because they have an agenda that wishes all Americans be reduced to unarmed peasants, fully dependent on Uncle Sugar and unable to revolt.

[OXENinFLA]

Sweet!

[Hat-Trick]

Not to nitpick, but since this issue is incredibly important to our future liberty, we should get the punctuation correct:

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

There is only one comma in the 2nd Amendment as originally written, not three.

FRegards,

Hat-Trick

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

True, although consider the new panel to be installed, the time factor of not only them but "our" Congress, as well as the attitudinal change in the general public. In the end, after truth has conquered, this ain't going to be no easy nut to crack.

Maybe we could mail our empty shells to Lurch.

[Travis McGee]

It's progress!

[ConservativeMan55]

bttt

[susiek]

"There is only one comma in the 2nd Amendment as originally written, not three."

I did a cut and paste directly out of Westlaw. If all the lawyers and others researching the law in this country have an incorrectly punctuated version of the amendment offered to them by a main legal research resource, no wonder some people are confused about the meaning of "the right of the people!"

[RBroadfoot]

According to the AG report, the punctuation is significant.

[Grut]

Unless the Bush administration translates this into action, it's meaningless. So far, they've taken the position that while RKBA is an individual right, no existing law - including the prohibition of firearms in the District of Columbia - infringes on the 'reasonable' regulation of that right.

In other words, this is just so much shuck and jive.

[RBroadfoot]

The AG report quotes 2nd Amendment as follows:

The Second Amendment of the Constitution provides: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

with 3 commas.

[susiek]

They probably got the text off of Westlaw or out of a West-published book, too. I would imagine that if West has three commas, almost everyone uses three commas. I wonder where the one comma version can be found? HatTrick, you're the one who reported that the original text had only one comma--where'd you get that version?

[Badray]

""Both the language and history of the Second Amendment show that its subject matter was not individual rights," Henigan said, "but rather the distribution of military power in society between the states and the federal government.""

Hmmm.

He is either a stupid SOB or he is a lying POS SOB. I'm not sure that it matters much which one it is as his opinions are totally worthless either way.

[Badray]

Great minds think alike. I just read it and came to the exact conclusion that you did.

[Dead Corpse]

Open in an editor. Zoom in. Looks like three comma's to me.

Here's a hi-res in color pdf version. Click Here.

[Dead Corpse]

Please see post #36. There were several copies penned at the time and sent to the various States for ratification. If there were grammatical errors, then our Constitution is "technically" void. According to our laws, all legislation submitted like this must be identical.

This isn't a "deal breaker" IMO, but I'm positive there are scum sucking lawyers and opportunist politicians that would try to exploit it.

[Hat-Trick]

I stand corrected, after looking at the posted image - there are definitely three commas. I cut and pasted from www.billofrights.org.

[Joe Brower]

More good RKBA news to brighten you day. $:-)

Just a few years ago, when we were fighting tooth and nail against the myriad and unrelenting attacks by the Clinton adminstration, who would have thought we'd ever be seeing anything like this from the FedGov?

All a matter of keeping the right folks at the helm.

Click the pic to go to the Gun Facts v4.0 download page!

[Grampa Dave]

Jake Reno must be shaking in overdrive after reading this.